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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    No, it isn't . I stated in doubted his thinking was that deep and I do.
    Understanding that nuclear weapons are a deterrent doesn't require "deep" thinking. Even a child can understand it. I learned about mutually assured destruction in grade school. So unless you're trying to argue that Kim has the intelligence of a toddler, I have no idea what you're basing your position on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Understanding that nuclear weapons are a deterrent doesn't require "deep" thinking. Even a child can understand it. I learned about mutually assured destruction in grade school. So unless you're trying to argue that Kim has the intelligence of a toddler, I have no idea what you're basing your position on.
    Lack of understanding does not have to equal lack of intelligence. It can stand on its own. I do not believe he understands anything other than his own desires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Lack of understanding does not have to equal lack of intelligence. It can stand on its own. I do not believe he understands anything other than his own desires.
    His desire is to deter western governments from effectuating regime change in his country. Nuclear weaponry is the best way of achieving that goal. It doesn't require "deep" thinking. A child could understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    His desire is to deter western governments from effectuating regime change in his country. Nuclear weaponry is the best way of achieving that goal. It doesn't require "deep" thinking. A child could understand it.
    His desire is for the fear and respect he thinks he deserves and believes nuclear weapons will bring him. My opinion Is that if he thought for one second that he was vulnerable to regime change he wouldn't bluster so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    The boy-despot will have a war with someone. He wants war......
    And we don't?

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    We need to negotiate with China on regime change. Accept nothing else. If the answer is no, send MacArthur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And we don't?
    I'm not sure of the consensus on that. I don't know a whole lot of people that want war. It is a very gruesome business, even without nukes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    He wants a nuclear deterrent. War doesn't get him that.
    But if he gains that ability, the result will be war. They are irrational enough to use it as a first option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    But if he gains that ability, the result will be war. They are irrational enough to use it as a first option.
    That is probably the case.
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