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Thread: Military areas of control in the waning days of the Islamic State

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    You are incorrect as always.

    Stop.

    Consider the cost of running a statlet, with several cities with millions of residents.

    Think. Then post.
    I've been 'started' for many years now concerning this topic, beyond 'stop', Sir. I had asked you to consider the 'cost' in blood and money you're going to be in debt for if you allowed this 'lightly armored' Islamic State to roll over the Levant to begin with. Which you supported wholesale. I explained in detail the cost of inaction and yet you were its' proponent nonetheless. Furthermore, we discussed at length the costs as you refer to them here. Their establishment of taxes. Their ability to raise funds through kidnapping and murder. Oil sales both legal and illegal. Their funding from abroad. We discussed at length their ability to establish affiliations in the Sunni regios thus rather than the Sunni Tribes rejecting ISIL outright, the terror group was able to negotiate agreements within the Sunni Tribal factions.

    I am not understanding your line of thinking here, Pete, please explain this to me. You're statement "A transnational terrorist organization is more of a threat to the United States than a statelet in the Middle East trying to bring about their Calipate." I cannot see where that argument makes sense, can you elaborate any?

    I'm gonna go ahead and stack shells in preparations for your response. Start bringing up the artillery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We are in the Middle East because we have vital interests there. The question is what we should be doing there and what we should not be doing there.


    What vital interest? I mean now that we have put on our big boy pants and produce most of our own energy?
    I am on the record as stating that we should never have opposed Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    So is the Taliban, Peter. It's basically lightly armored, relies on abstract infantry tactics and sheer terror and murder. And yet establishing their 'caliphate', in this case the nation of Afghanistan, despite not having the ability to physically attack Americans, they become a direct national security threat...of vital national security interests. Don't they, Analyst?

    You and Common Sense must believe the Taliban is no such 'infiltrate unit', no threat to the US certainly. Are they?

    The Taliban cannot attack. Remain confined to Afghanistan although they have many leadership ties to leadership and funding from Pakistan. Are they a threat to the United States, Peter? Common Sense?

    They're not a transnational terror group. They're not sending suicide bombers. Cannot attack the US. What would be the harm or threat matrix should The Taliban be allowed to establish a caliphate or government in Afghanistan? Of vital national security interests to We the People? Peter?
    The Taliban is a nationalist group in Afghanistan. They have zero international ambitions beyound their nation and perhaps parts of Pakistan.
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    Apologies for quoting in the wrong place in post 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Taliban is a nationalist group in Afghanistan. They have zero international ambitions beyound their nation and perhaps parts of Pakistan.
    Exactly. And yet became a national security crisis for the entire world. Awaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Apologies for quoting in the wrong place in post 22.
    Is it of vital interest if Iran develops an atomic weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Is it of vital interest if Iran develops an atomic weapon?
    Lets see.
    Who is the one country ever bat $#@! crazy enough to use nukes on people?
    How often are "nuclear nations" invaded and taken over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Exactly. And yet became a national security crisis for the entire world. Awaken.
    How do goat hearders impact the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The danger that will be faced with the destruction of the ISIL "state" is that it will force thousands of extremists underground where their only weapon will be terror attacks.
    More reason for war, CIA $#@! stick stirring and tighter controls on our rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    How do goat hearders impact the world?

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    Where I often am shocked by your forest for the trees analyses, Peter. You absolutely are aware that when Bush announces American troops are on the offensive in Afghanistan, the goal of Operation Enduring Freedom is to stamp out "Afghanistan’s Islamic fundamentalist Taliban regime". For it's specific "aiding and abetting of al-Qaeda and its leader, Osama bin Laden."

    The goat herding Islamic State also came to impact the world, Peter.........just like the goat herding Taliban do. For their specific aiding and abetting, for their facilitation and recruitment, for their threat to the western world and United States. Those the reasons the goat herders in Afghanistan became of vital national interest to the United States, the terrorist acts we see today as well have become of vital national interests to these United States. Let me know if I can help you with anything else.

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