Luddites be damned. Humans are going to Mars. And the Moon. Then beyond.
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Common Sense (06-29-2017)
Peter, my Friend, dream on. It isn't about attitude, it's about reality.
1. The cost of transporting millions of tons of water, steel, food, oxygen, fuel, batteries, bulldozers, trucks, electronics, to the moon much less Mars, while people are starving and living on the streets in virtually every country in the world is cruelty on a massive scale.
2. Whatever happened to climate change, and reducing our carbon footprint 80%? Impossible with this pie in the sky dream.
3. Digging underground is prohibitively expensive and would be an unpleasant place to live, but staying on the surface, and growing food there would require pressurized greenhouses which would be destroyed by a small meteor. This would kill everyone living inside.
4. Nothing to do there except.... exist. No fishing, no surfing, no taking country vacations.
It's an absolutely unrealistic and silly claim to make, akin to getting technology from E.T., who doesn't exist and couldn't help us if he did.
Common Sense (06-29-2017)
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Nothing like changing the subject to pretend you are right, is there.
But since you bring up the savages, here are some facts about them.
While American Indians were living in teepees, humans on the other side of the earth were building massive cathedrals, and museums, and universities, and writing music, in BOOKS. Indians did not so much as have a written language.
One of the savage methods of torture used by Indians was to cut the soles of the feet off their enemies, and then put their bloodied feet on burning hot coals. Another was to cut their eyelids off and bury them on anthills, to be eaten by ants, eyes first. The history of mankind is a history of war. Indians were no different than other civilizations, except that Indians were one of the most primitive, most ignorant.
South American natives sacrificed children and other innocents at the altar, and enslaved some tribes.
But returning to the subject, which is "creating a city on Mars," you utterly failed to address how to prevent a meteor of even small size from breaking the greenhouse on Mars, killing everyone inside.
Earth's atmosphere burns up most small meteors, but Mars has no atmosphere and cannot burn them up.
Then there is the matter of the Mars Wannabe city built in the Arizona desert, to be self-sufficient. Except it failed miserably, with only four people inside. On earth.
This is a ludicrous and impossible statement. 50 years?
50 years ago they said there would be flying bubble cars in every garage.
We have yet to figure out a way to put a human on Mars let alone inhabit it. The logistics of supporting one million inhabitants are not only staggering but unobtainable with our current technology. The technology alone will most like take more than 50 years to create and longer to implement.
I find your lack of faith...disturbing...
-Darth Vader
I don't think it will be 50 years, but our technology is advancing at an almost exponential level.
Think of what a computer was 20 years ago. 20 years of traveling to Mars would create a huge advance in tech. I think there could be a small colony there in 50 years. Maybe an actual settlement in another 50.
But we have to get there first.
The Luddites and the young earthers are going to be awestruck as humans expand into the stars.
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