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    Post Iran Still on the Hunt for Nuclear Weapons Technology Across Germany

    Iran Still on the Hunt for Nuclear Weapons Technology Across Germany.

    Busted? Peace in our time?


    http://www.weeklystandard.com/iran-s...rticle/2008747
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    Iran has been actively seeking nukes along time, it would be foolish to believe they would stop or ever keep a treaty or an agreement. Obama not only took the sanctions off them but gave them half a billion on the promise they would be good. Yeah ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Iran Still on the Hunt for Nuclear Weapons Technology Across Germany.

    Busted? Peace in our time?


    http://www.weeklystandard.com/iran-s...rticle/2008747
    People will seldom follow an agreement they feel inhibits their ability to defend themselves. We can't stop it. The world is going to obtain nukes and ICBM's one country at a time. No reason to panic. No nuclear nation has ever been invaded. Well, that's probably EXACTLY why the global military industrial complex is in panic". What if they could no longer invade and screw with the internal politics of other nations at will? The horror! And only one was ever able to come up with enough rationalizations to ever use them on people.
    Hint though, we might want to mind our own bizz and stop pissing people off.

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    We can keep delaying it. We threw them for a loop with Stuxnet.

    And if Israel believes that Iran is about to get nukes, they will attack Iran whether anyone else helps or not.

    Iran with nukes is an existential threat to Israel.


    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    People will seldom follow an agreement they feel inhibits their ability to defend themselves. We can't stop it. The world is going to obtain nukes and ICBM's one country at a time. No reason to panic. No nuclear nation has ever been invaded. Well, that's probably EXACTLY why the global military industrial complex is in panic". What if they could no longer invade and screw with the internal politics of other nations at will? The horror! And only one was ever able to come up with enough rationalizations to ever use them on people.
    Hint though, we might want to mind our own bizz and stop pissing people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    People will seldom follow an agreement they feel inhibits their ability to defend themselves. We can't stop it. The world is going to obtain nukes and ICBM's one country at a time. No reason to panic. No nuclear nation has ever been invaded. Well, that's probably EXACTLY why the global military industrial complex is in panic".
    A Taliban in Afghanistan comes to possess a nuclear weapon, that isn't anything to panic about? North Korea develops intercontinental ballistic missile and nuclear technology shouldn't 'panic' South Korea, Japan, or the Philippines? I think the fear, donttread, is that the weapon would be detonated in the middle of Israel, on the Korean Peninsula or closer to Japan. Those who would be in a panic would be Israel. Would be South Korea and Japan. It also at least requires the US to maintain a much stronger deterrent, a perpetual mutually assured destruction reality...concerning numerous enemies, numerous sources, an enhanced threat matrix. That would again require support, growth, and success of our defense industry that will then....in a big perfect circle.....result in your criticism and rant.


    What if they could no longer invade and screw with the internal politics of other nations at will? The horror! And only one was ever able to come up with enough rationalizations to ever use them on people.
    Hint though, we might want to mind our own bizz and stop pissing people off.
    I will tell you exactly what would occur if we could no longer invade and 'screw with' the internal politics of others. Somalis would starve to death.

    Lessons. Learn em.

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    Nuclear weapons used as they were during the Cold War (MADD) perhaps would be manageable by the US. If a nation such as Iran or North Korea hit one of our cities, they would be glass parking lots and their people would cease to exist. They know that and more likely than not would not hit the US.

    However, if a rogue nation use nukes as EMP weapons and killed our electrical grids (we have three), up to 90% of the US population could be dead in one year. That is why it is unacceptable for these nations to get nuclear weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We can keep delaying it. We threw them for a loop with Stuxnet.

    And if Israel believes that Iran is about to get nukes, they will attack Iran whether anyone else helps or not.

    Iran with nukes is an existential threat to Israel.
    True enough, so what to do there? Aid Israel in striking Iran? Ask Russia and/or NATO to get involved in a global coalition? Wouldn't Iran make a great Chevy dealership?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Nuclear weapons used as they were during the Cold War (MADD) perhaps would be manageable by the US. If a nation such as Iran or North Korea hit one of our cities, they would be glass parking lots and their people would cease to exist. They know that and more likely than not would not hit the US.

    However, if a rogue nation use nukes as EMP weapons and killed our electrical grids (we have three), up to 90% of the US population could be dead in one year. That is why it is unacceptable for these nations to get nuclear weapons.
    If electromagnetic pulse weapons are the problem we could rebuild and harden our electrical grid. We know what the problems are. They are all fixable. This counter-EMP solution overlaps well with the counter-CME solution. We will also need to counter the cyber-physical attack.

    Because the electrical grid is so highly regulated it will require political action to rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Nuclear weapons used as they were during the Cold War (MADD) perhaps would be manageable by the US. If a nation such as Iran or North Korea hit one of our cities, they would be glass parking lots and their people would cease to exist. They know that and more likely than not would not hit the US.

    However, if a rogue nation use nukes as EMP weapons and killed our electrical grids (we have three), up to 90% of the US population could be dead in one year. That is why it is unacceptable for these nations to get nuclear weapons.
    I think it more likely Pete that you could see a detonation in a nation such as Israel as heinous to contemplate as that is. It would take some time to decipher clues as to who was responsible. The humanitarian efforts alone that would be needed would probably pre-empt any counter strike. A military mission of revenge then developed and what would it amount to?

    I agree we should prevent nuclear weaponry for the foreseeable future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    True enough, so what to do there? Aid Israel in striking Iran? Ask Russia and/or NATO to get involved in a global coalition? Wouldn't Iran make a great Chevy dealership?
    Israel would ask for US assistance. The US 5th Fleet would have to react to the Iranian counter attack against Irsrael and economic targets in the Persian Gulf. We would likely eliminate Iran's navy and airforce in short order and that would be that.
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