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    What did North Korea launch?

    What did North Korea launch?

    A good article about the tech side of this ICBM. Read it if you are interested.
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    I read an interesting article in the paper today talking about the engines for this being Soviet legacy technology.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    I read an interesting article in the paper today talking about the engines for this being Soviet legacy technology.
    That is where they got their tech from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    That is where they got their tech from.
    It also said that most of the sophisticated electronics for guidance systems etc. came from China.
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    To be effective NK needs a survivable re-entry vehicle. I remember reading that they did not have that tech as yet. NK is part-way there and proceeding and a bother as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    It also said that most of the sophisticated electronics for guidance systems etc. came from China.
    Which in turn came from BJ Clinton.
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    Granny says the Donald needs to smack Rocket Boy on his fat head...

    US Hopes New, Tougher Sanctions Will Stop N. Korea Weapons Development
    September 21, 2017 — The United States on Thursday further clamped down on North Korea's ties to the outside world, moving to sever any links between Pyongyang and banks outside the reclusive state.
    "Foreign financial institutions are now on notice that going forward they can choose to do business with the United States or with North Korea, but not both," U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin told reporters in New York. "This new executive order enables Treasury to freeze assets of anyone conducting significant trade in goods, services or technology with North Korea. It also allows us to freeze assets of actors supporting North Korea's textiles, fishing, IT and manufacturing industries," Mnuchin said. Echoing the words of President Donald Trump earlier in the day, Mnuchin said Pyongyang has for too long "evaded sanctions and used the international financial system to facilitate funding for its weapons and mass destruction and ballistic missile programs."

    Shipping, trade networks

    The Trump administration is also specifically targeting North Korea's shipping and trade networks. Any plane or ship that has visited North Korea is prohibited from arriving in the United States for 180 days, according to a text of a notification letter Trump sent to the speaker of the House of Representatives. "This is the right decision by the Trump administration," former U.S. Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns told VOA. "The U.S. and others need to increase the economic costs to Pyongyang for its illegal and destabilizing nuclear program," added Burns, a Harvard University professor and director of the Kennedy School's Future of Diplomacy Project.


    A man watches a TV screen showing file footage of North Korea's missile launch and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, at the Seoul Railway Station in Seoul, South Korea

    "Today's action follows the approach used against Iran where countries, banks and individuals had to choose between Iran and the United States," said Anthony Ruggerio, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. "North Korea relies on its international commercial and financial networks to procure items for its weapons programs, luxury goods for the elites and other items, and sanctions can restrict North Korea's revenue available for those purposes," Ruggiero, a former U.S. government specialist on targeted financial measures, told VOA.

    In an exchange with reporters, Mnuchin said: "I'm not going to comment on what I expect North Korea to do. Obviously ... the objective is for them to stop their missile tests and give up their nuclear weapons." China's central bank has also reportedly ordered the country's financial institutions to stop doing business with North Korea, action Trump called "a tremendous move" that was "somewhat unexpected." Trump expressed thanks to Chinese President Xi Jinping for the move, saying "that was a great thing he did today."

    []EU eyes sanctions[/b]
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    North Korea Threatens Nuclear Test in Pacific
    September 22, 2017 — North Korea indicated it may soon test a hydrogen bomb in the Pacific Ocean after the country’s leader Kim Jong Un warned he would match U.S. President Donald Trump’s threatening words and new sanctions with equally provocative action.
    The North Korean leader responded Friday to Trump’s United Nations address this week, when the U.S. leader referred to Kim as a “Rocket Man” on a suicide mission, called the government in Pyongyang a “depraved regime,” and said if forced to defend itself or its allies, the Untied States will “totally destroy North Korea.” In a statement directly attributed to the North Korean leader, Kim on Friday said Trump displayed “mentally deranged behavior” with his threat to destroy a sovereign nation. He called the U.S. president a “rogue and a gangster,” and promised to answer Trump’s insults with the “highest level of hard-line countermeasure in history.” “Action is the best option in treating the dotard who, hard of hearing, is uttering only what he wants to say,” said Kim in statement that was released by the North Korean state news agency KCNA. The agency released a photo of the North Korean leader reading the statement.

    Pacific test

    North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho, who will address the United Nations Friday, told reporters in New York that Kim likely intends to carry out a hydrogen bomb test in the Pacific Ocean. Attempting to conduct an open air nuclear test in international waters would be a highly risky and aggressive act that could, at the very least, expose islands in the Pacific to dangerous levels of radiation, as well damage electrical systems in the region from the strong electromagnetic pulse (EMP) generated by the blast. It could also draw the U.S. into taking preventive military action. “That could trigger probably the strongest response, other than an actual military attack I think, that is probably about the limit where North Korea could go,” said Daniel Pinkston, a regional security analyst with Troy University in Seoul.


    South Korea's Hyunmoo II ballistic missile is fired during an exercise at an undisclosed location in South Korea

    Pyongyang conducted its sixth and largest nuclear test earlier this month, but all its atomic bombs have been detonated in an underground facility. The last reported open-atmosphere nuclear test was conducted by China before 1980, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA.) The U.S. and the Soviet Union detonated numerous atomic bombs in the ocean and upper atmosphere before signing the 1963 nuclear test ban treaty that prohibits atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons. North Korea has also conducted numerous ballistic missile tests with the goal of developing a nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of targeting the U.S. mainland.

    However, both President Trump’s harsh rhetoric and Kim Jong Un’s provocative response may also be diplomatic ploys to gain a future negotiating advantage. “The exchange of blusters may indicate that both sides want to compel the other side to back down with the assumption that the other side prefers a diplomatic solution to the current situation,” said Bong Young-shik, with the Yonsei University Institute for North Korean Studies in Seoul.

    Condemning provocations

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    They have 120 days to close. We will see if China follows through with the order. Setting the 120 days seems to be a way China thinks may slow things down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    They have 120 days to close. We will see if China follows through with the order. Setting the 120 days seems to be a way China thinks may slow things down.
    Yep. Half measure warning shot. Left with openings.
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