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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Fiscal conservatism isn't the problem. I am a fiscal conservative. It is the social conservatism that is the oxymoron. There is nothing about repressing individual liberty, and demanding more intrusive government control in the name of religious morality that is, in any way shape or form, conservative.
    Agreed. Social conservatism should be kept at the state and local level. It is not a federal issue.

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    It should be known, that I also warned General Petraeus about surge strategy, but alas, my warnings went unheeded.

    Likewise, my messages, to George W.Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, went unheeded, and were scoffed at, and I was warned that such messages were a sign of being a traitor and that if I was not with Bush, I was a traitor. This was from a very reliable source at the time, who was later found to be BAT@#%CRAZY.

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    Possible replacements for Petraeus at the CIA...

    Who will replace Petraeus atop the CIA?
    November 9th, 2012 - So who might be the replacement for David Petraeus? The rumor mill was in full swing Friday after the CIA director stepped down, saying he had an extramarital affair.
    One person being discussed is Michael Morell, the now acting CIA director, who could be named to the position permanently. President Barack Obama thinks highly of Morell, several U.S. officials told CNN's Chief White House Correspondent Jessica Yellin. In his statement on the resignation of Petraeus, Obama expressed the "utmost confidence" in Morell continuing the work of the CIA. Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein also expressed support of Morell, saying "the agency is in very good hands until the president selects a replacement." But at the top could very well be John Brennan, the president's powerful adviser for counterterrorism and homeland security.

    Brennan has shaped the White House's strategy to aggressively pursue suspected terrorists, dramatically escalating the use of armed unmanned aircraft to kill them in the ungoverned territories of Pakistan and in Yemen. Small teams of special operations forces have been deployed to critical locations. And Brennan is said to have the complete trust of Obama. What could hold him back is exactly why he pulled out of contention for the CIA director's position in 2008 when the newly elected Obama was putting together his administration. Liberal bloggers accused Brennan of supporting outgoing President George W. Bush's policy of harsh interrogation techniques.

    Brennan withdrew his name from consideration in an angry letter to Obama. "It has been immaterial to the critics that I have a been strong opponent of many of the policies of the Bush administration such as preemptive war in Iraq and coercive interrogation tactics," Brennan wrote. In the end, Brennan wound up with a more powerful position in the administration. More recently, the White House has been criticized by some Republicans for leaks of sensitive information on counterterrorism operations. Brennan has called the leaks devastating and vehemently denied administration officials were involved. But the controversy could make for a difficult confirmation hearing if he is nominated.

    Although many people say they think Brennan is ready to leave the administration after four years in an extremely demanding job, some who are close to him believe he still has his eyes set on the CIA job. Another possibility for the position: Jane Harman, the former congresswoman from California who is well-respected within intelligence circles.

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    November 9th, 2012 - Once again, Michael Morell is being called on to fill in as acting director of the CIA, this time after the resignation of David Petraeus on Friday.
    It was only last year, during the two-month gap from the time Leon Panetta left the CIA until Petraeus took over the helm, that Deputy Director Morell oversaw the agency. The career intelligence officer joined the CIA in 1980. Much of his early career focused on Asian issues, and he has had a steady climb up the career ladder.

    He served as then-CIA Director George Tenet's executive assistant and presided over the daily intelligence briefing for President George W. Bush. After a three-year overseas assignment in the mid-2000s, he returned to headquarters, where he became the associate deputy director responsible for the day-to-day operation of the agency.

    After spending two years as the director of intelligence, overseeing the work of analysts, he was appointed to his current position as Deputy Director in May 2010. In his statement on the resignation of Petraeus, President Barack Obama expressed trust in Morell continuing the work of the CIA. "I have the utmost confidence in Acting Director Michael Morell and the men and women of the CIA who work every day to keep our nation safe," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Agreed. Social conservatism should be kept at the state and local level. It is not a federal issue.
    I won't even concede that it is a state, or local issue. Liberty is liberty, whether it is being suppressed at the Federal, State, or Local level.
    You don't get to vote for the party that supported, and legislated government forced vaginal probes, and then claim to oppose Obama because he represents "increased government control, and power".

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    Possible replacements for Petraeus at the CIA...

    Who will replace Petraeus atop the CIA?
    November 9th, 2012 - So who might be the replacement for David Petraeus? The rumor mill was in full swing Friday after the CIA director stepped down, saying he had an extramarital affair.


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    Petraeus stand-in has been through this before
    November 9th, 2012 - Once again, Michael Morell is being called on to fill in as acting director of the CIA, this time after the resignation of David Petraeus on Friday.
    I'm not entirely sure that Brennen will make the short list. He's a little heavy handed, and a bit too much of a micro-manager to make a good DI. I think Morrell is very likely.
    You don't get to vote for the party that supported, and legislated government forced vaginal probes, and then claim to oppose Obama because he represents "increased government control, and power".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I won't even concede that it is a state, or local issue. Liberty is liberty, whether it is being suppressed at the Federal, State, or Local level.
    Check... and... balance

    or, "trust, but verify"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    "trust, but verify"
    Ah, Ronald Reagan. Excellent quote.
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    "We respect and have a whole bunch of safeguards in terms of how we conduct counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States. The rules outside of the United States are going to be different than the rules inside of the United States."
    - Barack Hussein Obama


    That means
    NO safeguards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I won't even concede that it is a state, or local issue. Liberty is liberty, whether it is being suppressed at the Federal, State, or Local level.

    Well States of the sovereign power to legislate Life Health and Safety matters. You are certainly free to vote your conscience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I won't even concede that it is a state, or local issue. Liberty is liberty, whether it is being suppressed at the Federal, State, or Local level.
    Now when you figure out your economic liberty is as important as your bedroom liberty, maybe you'll understand what we've been trying to tell you. Voting for one at the expense of the other lands you in the same place--slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Well States of the sovereign power to legislate Life Health and Safety matters. You are certainly free to vote your conscience.
    But their power to legislate ends, as it should, with matters of personal decisions that do not infringe on the rights of others.
    You don't get to vote for the party that supported, and legislated government forced vaginal probes, and then claim to oppose Obama because he represents "increased government control, and power".

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