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Thread: Poor Petraeus. Shated for what I think is exemplary behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    Now when you figure out your economic liberty is as important as your bedroom liberty, maybe you'll understand what we've been trying to tell you. Voting for one at the expense of the other lands you in the same place--slavery.
    And I might say the same to you about social liberty. I stand by my decision. So long as the Modern Republican Party insists on marrying its fiscal conservatism with social conservatism, while I may not always vote Democrat, I will never vote Republican. If the Republican Party wants me, and others like me, back in their party, then they need to find a way to divorce themselves from the theocrats in their Party.
    You don't get to vote for the party that supported, and legislated government forced vaginal probes, and then claim to oppose Obama because he represents "increased government control, and power".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    And I might say the same to you about social liberty. I stand by my decision. So long as the Modern Republican Party insists on marrying its fiscal conservatism with social conservatism, while I may not always vote Democrat, I will never vote Republican. If the Republican Party wants me, and others like me, back in their party, then they need to find a way to divorce themselves from the theocrats in their Party.

    The US is one of the few Western democracies (if you can stretch your imagination and call it a democracy) in which social conservatism is a political issue.

    In NZ, for example, religion has no place in politics (though human rights do). The last attempt by a religious vested interest to influence political opinion was met by overwhelming resistance. The party that looked to be winning in the polls crashed to an ignominious and well-deserved defeat as soon as it was revealed the Exclusive Brethren were behind an ad campaign.

    We keep religion in the littlest room where it belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    But their power to legislate ends, as it should, with matters of personal decisions that do not infringe on the rights of others.
    That is how I vote in local elections. But others don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Agreed. Social conservatism should be kept at the state and local level. It is not a federal issue.
    Social conservatism should be kept in the Prehistoric display at the Smithsonian Institution. Between Neanderthal man clubbing his wife, and Tyrannosaurus Rex terrorizing the Herbivores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyDog View Post
    Social conservatism should be kept in the Prehistoric display at the Smithsonian Institution. Between Neanderthal man clubbing his wife, and Tyrannosaurus Rex terrorizing the Herbivores.
    Next to the Hobbits and Orcs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Next to the Hobbits and Orcs?
    I was thinking the (American) Whigs.
    Come sit down beside me I said to myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    I was thinking the (American) Whigs.
    Is federalism used in NZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    "Shated" isn't a word. Maybe consult a dictionary next time to see how to spell whatever word you thought you were saying?

    Nitwit.

    The Flea shouting at the lion .
    I wouldn't worry too much about vocabulary at your stage of comprehension , concentrate on meaning and non selectivity .

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    OK, back on track.

    Had Petraeus smaked one of these women in the mouth and then advised her to put ice on that, who he get a pass like Bill Clinton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Is federalism used in NZ?
    It was briefly. Then we figured it was a stupid idea.

    So we have no states and a unicameral legislature.

    Saves a lot of bother.
    Last edited by Awryly; 11-12-2012 at 07:59 PM.
    Come sit down beside me I said to myself
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