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    Paternity suit brought by a woman who claims to be his daughter...

    Digging up Dali: Why experts question artist paternity claim
    Wed, 19 Jul 2017 - A 1.5-tonne slab will have to be moved to allow DNA testing to settle the contentious claim.
    The body of the artist Salvador Dalí is due to be exhumed late on Thursday in order to settle a paternity suit brought by a woman who claims to be his daughter. The surrealist painter, who died in 1989 at the age of 85, was buried in a crypt in a museum dedicated to his life and work in Figueres, in north-eastern Spain. Samples will be taken from his remains to see if they match the DNA of the claimant. The process is going ahead despite the objections of the local authorities and the foundation carrying Dalí's name, both of which claimed that not enough notice had been given ahead of the exhumation. It will require the removal of a 1.5-tonne slab covering his tomb in order to reach his body.


    Ms Martínez says she was born in 1956 as a result of an affair between Dalí and her mother

    María Pilar Abel Martínez, a tarot card reader who was born in 1956, says her mother had an affair with Dalí during the year before her birth. Her mother, Antonia, had worked for a family that spent time in Cadaqués, near the painter's home. Last month a Madrid judge ordered the exhumation to settle the claim. It is contested by the Dalí foundation, which manages the estate of the artist, who was not believed to have had any children. Ms Martínez says her mother and paternal grandmother both told her at an early age that Dalí was her real father. She told El Mundo newspaper that her grandmother said to her: "I love you a lot but I know that you're not the daughter of my son. What's more, I know who your father is - he is Salvador Dalí." One day, Ms Martínez says, she asked her mother: "Am I really Salvador Dali's daughter? Because look at how ugly he was." She says her mother replied: "Yes, but he had his charms. And yes, he is your father."


    A biographer of the eccentric artists says the notion of him having an affair that produced a child is "absolutely impossible"

    Ms Martínez's action is against the Spanish state, to which Dalí left his estate. If she is confirmed to be his daughter, she could assume his surname and be entitled to part of that estate. But the story of the supposed affair has surprised many - not so much because Dalí was married in 1955, but because of his complex sexual tastes. And for some, this is why the thought of Dalí making a woman pregnant seems unlikely. Ian Gibson, an Irish-born biographer of Dalí, says the idea of the Catalan artist ever having had an orthodox physical relationship with a woman is "absolutely impossible", despite five decades of marriage to Elena Ivanova Diakonova, his Russian wife more commonly known as Gala. "Dalí always boasted: 'I'm impotent, you've got to be impotent to be a great painter'," the biographer said.


    Dalí's wife, Gala, died in 1982 - after which he is said to have lost much of his zest for life

    Salvador Dalí - Life of a surrealist

    * Born on 11 May 1904 in Figueres, Catalonia, Spain
    * Produced more than 1,500 paintings throughout his career
    * Married Elena Ivanovna Diakonova - or Gala - in 1934; they had no children
    * The couple had an open marriage and regularly held orgies at their house - though Dalí is said to have watched rather than participated
    * Died 23 January 1989 in Figueres

    His close friendship with the gay poet Federico García Lorca has fuelled speculation that Dalí was homosexual, although Ian Gibson believes they never consummated their relationship. Carlos Lozano, who was for a time part of the painter's inner circle, told the biographer that "Dalí was totally unable to have any sexual relations with anybody, not even, probably, with Gala... He hated being touched and when he touched you it was like being clawed by an eagle."

    'A great voyeur'

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    gold digger.
    There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.

    Book of Democrat Things, Chapter 1:1






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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    gold digger.
    Psychic gold digger at that. Did her mother and GN really tell her or did the cards??? LOL

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    BTW Waltky, great thread tittle , LOL.

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    DNA doesn't support Woman claiming to be Salvador Dali's daughter...

    Woman claiming to be Salvador Dali's daughter isn't biologically related
    Sept. 7, 2017 -- The results of a DNA test on the exhumed remains of Salvador Dali revealed a woman claiming to his daughter is not biologically related to him, the Spanish artist's foundation said.
    The Gala-Salvador Dali Foundation issued a statement Thursday saying a Madrid court said biological samples exclude the surrealist painter as María Pilar Abel Martínez's father. The foundation said it wasn't surprised by the results of the investigation. "The unusual and unjustified court decision to practice the exhumation is confirmed as totally inadequate and disproportionate, showing its utter inadmissibility and the uselessness of the costs and damages caused of all kind, in respect of which the foundation reiterates its express right of actions," it said.


    Maria Pilar Abel Martinez stands in front of Salvador Dali's Museum in Figueres, Girona, Catalonia, Spain, on June 26. A DNA concluded she's not biologically related to Dali as she claimed.

    Abel Martinez, born in 1956, said her mother had an affair with Dali. The woman's mother had worked for a family whose residence in Cadaques, Spain, was near Dali's home. Abel Martinez said she had been told for years by her mother and grandmother that Dali, who is not believed to have any children, was her father. In June, a Madrid judge ordered the exhumation to settle the issue after Abel Martinez filed a legal claim to the estate. The Gala-Salvador Dalí Foundation manages the estate and the museum where the artist is buried.

    Those involved in Dali's life suggest his fatherhood of Abel Martinez was unlikely -- particularly because he'd been classified by friends, biographers, and himself as gay and impotent. "The foundation is pleased that this report puts an end to an absurd and artificial controversy, and that the figure of Salvador Dalí remains definitively excluded from totally groundless claims," the foundation said. Dali, who died at the age of 84, is perhaps best known for The Persistence of Memory (1931), which features melting clocks in a desert landscape.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...&utm_medium=19

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