They don't solve everything, but they certainly help. I'm strongly supportive of legislation like the Paycheck Fairness Act in particular because the sex-based segregation of work is a huge part of the remaining pay gap. Requiring that people be paid the same for equivalent work (work that contributes equally to a company's bottom line) rather than just for identical work would certainly help remedy that situation.Mainecoons wrote:
No Polly, we shouldn't have equal pay laws because they don't work.
That's the thing of it though: you don't have to be an economics expert or a political scientist to know that getting paid less than a man for equivalent work isn't good for you or that having more life options is better than having fewer. Do you see what I mean? You don't generally have to be an expert to know your interests.We'll have to agree to disagree on the intelligence of the great mass of the voters. For every one of you and me or our peers, I believe there are thousands of people who don't understand economics and politics at a very fundamental level. Many of them can't even spell correctly or write complete and inteligible sentences.
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Under the Equal Pay Act, the law that makes it illegal for employers to pay unequal wages to men and women who perform substantially equal work, an individual subject to wage discrimination must establish that “(1) the employer pays different wages to employees of the opposite sex; (2) the employees perform equal work on jobs requiring equal skill, effort and responsibility; and (3) the jobs are performed under similar working conditions.”
Even if the individual makes each of these showings, the defendant employer may avoid liability by proving that the wage disparity is justified by one of four affirmative defenses—that is, that the employer has set the challenged wages pursuant to “(1) a seniority system; (2) a merit system; (3) a system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of production; or (4) a differential based on any other factor other than sex."
The law will be impossible to enforce.
Captain Obvious (11-11-2012)
A (female) George W. Bush adviser's recommendations to her party concerning its future course vis-a-vis minorities and women. This partially echoes my advice from the OP.
(Bush people have credibility here in that they fared better among minorities and women in their elections than their party's successors have.)
Last edited by IMPress Polly; 11-11-2012 at 03:36 PM.
When I got to the first lie I skipped the rest of your two part fantasy. But, as far as I got, Ross Perot elected Bill Clinton who didn't get a majority of the vote and Ralph Nader probably was responsible for Al Gore losing to George Bush. Rewriting history is big for liberals but they need to learn to wait till those who lived it have died, or been killed in the purges.
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"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence."
— George Washington
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it."
— Mark Twain
"You want to get rid of drug crime in this country? Fine, let's just get rid of all the drug laws."
— Ron Paul
Polly, ObamaCare is neither affordable nor will it provide better care. You seem to live in this fantasy land where you think a government than can't deliver mail without losing billions, can't handle a natural disaster and can't balance a budget or, hell, even write one, can handle the health care of 320 million people.
You're a nice and well meaning person like my brother who has also spent his entire life learning things the hard way. So will you. Don't take this as a slam, you have a lot of company in America who have the same problem, hence this election and what is happening to the economy.