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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We are talking about Welfare. Regarding war, 10 years of it in Afghanistan and Iraq cost about as much as one of Obama's years of deficit spending.

    Real People Died ... it's Verifiable and can be Fact-Checked ... how about assertion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    Real People Died ... it's Verifiable and can be Fact-Checked ... how about assertion?
    I know it doesn't matter to those who consider bodies a bump in the road but real people are dying every day in Chicago. But, since they can't be exploited by the racists in our government they're ignored. All that can be fact-checked and verified and ignored.

    But, as long as you're here, Cigar, would you finally like to respond to my question about your comment that some people make a free-will choice to not work. Can we, taxpayers, make a free-will choice to not support their worthless asses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    Real People Died ... it's Verifiable and can be Fact-Checked ... how about assertion?
    No $#@!. I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We are talking about Welfare. Regarding war, 10 years of it in Afghanistan and Iraq cost about as much as one of Obama's years of deficit spending.
    And we actually freed people in Iraq and Afghanistan. All Obama's deficit spending does is take AWAY the freedoms of the people.
    Government cares about people like fishhooks care about fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    And we actually freed people in Iraq and Afghanistan. All Obama's deficit spending does is take AWAY the freedoms of the people.
    Long term we didn't free anyone in Iraq or Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    I know it doesn't matter to those who consider bodies a bump in the road but real people are dying every day in Chicago. But, since they can't be exploited by the racists in our government they're ignored. All that can be fact-checked and verified and ignored.

    But, as long as you're here, Cigar, would you finally like to respond to my question about your comment that some people make a free-will choice to not work. Can we, taxpayers, make a free-will choice to not support their worthless asses?
    The last I checked ... In Illinois ... you have to have had a Job in order to get Unemployment. So if your state is different, maybe you should be calling your State Rep,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    The last I checked ... In Illinois ... you have to have had a Job in order to get Unemployment. So if your state is different, maybe you should be calling your State Rep,
    Are you lying again or are you just incredibly stupid? How do people who have never held a job collect unemployment in your corrupt state? Unemployment isn't even the major form of welfare. Ever heard of SSI, affectionately known amongst deadbeats as "crazy pay?"

    Now, for the fifteenth or so time, do you want to answer the question or would you prefer to keep tap dancing with your ass hanging out of your pants. If someone makes a free-will choice to not work can taxpayers make a free-will choice to not support his lazy ass. It's a simple question, Cigar, even for you. Answer or just crawl back into your mother's basement and pout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Cary stop, that is not the question. Liberals are so eager to spend other people's money regardless of the effectiveness and sustainability of the programs. We can't afford our current level of welfare spending. And it has failed in its goals. Two strikes.
    What happened in the Eurozone is exactly the formula we are mixing.

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