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    I believe the repub party is on its last legs. They have allied themselves with the evil party in order to oust teaparty candidates. I think that will get worse. They will openly ally to destroy actual conservativism and they will adopt an abortion platform along with free contraceptives for any and every idiot. so. There will be a hard fight...and we, conservatives may lose. But who cares. The rest of the country will lose too...worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Considering they came to the table with a semi-lame, gaffe prone and on the charismatic deficit end of things, the greater concern should be on what did the Democrats NOT do. They re the party that went no where and had the incumbency thing on their side. With jobs finally on the upswing, and the unions solidly behind him, the question has to be why they didn't get control of the house.

    That will cost them. So afraid, they were about the big war, they forgot a few little battles that could snag things up a tad going
    "Forward"....as if they had.
    Pretty much Obama limped across the finish line, and that's why even the leftwing press is not talking about any mandate outside of raising taxes of the reasonably affluent in this nation.

    Obama lost ten million votes between 2008 and 2012 because despite all the spinning and covering that media outlets could do for him during the last four years too many voters decided that he was just barely good enough to be going on with. Romney, they decided, was enough like Obama that it didn't make sense [we are talking low information voters here] to swap out political lightweights.

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    The GOP is at a crossroads. Will they stay firm in their principals or will they integrate?

    I'm guessing the latter, I never had faith in the GOP which is why I changed parties.
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    They are no more dead than the Democrats where when Regain won 49 dates.

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    "The delight of leftists over winning Tuesday’s election and granting Barack Obama four more years in which to wreak his havoc on the nation will only be rivaled by their glee in the upcoming weeks as they offer yet more “advice” to our side on how to achieve victory in the future. The short answer is, of course, that the GOP must promise to govern like liberals. This is the core of their “wisdom” on every occasion, and whenever aspiring Republican candidates accept it, electoral disaster is all but guaranteed.
    Worse yet, this transparent effort is almost invariably aided and abetted by the entrenched “moderates” of the GOP establishment, many of whom abhor conservative principle, and are themselves devoted to gaining acceptance from the opposition. This, we are told, is the essence of “compromise” and “bipartisanship,” the net result of which is that regardless of which party holds the reins of power at the highest levels of government, liberals somehow still remain in control of the agenda."

    read the rest at http://www.theabsurdreport.com/2012/...opher-g-adamo/

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    But the real answer is to give Obama and the left what they want and the consequences that are inevitable with it. The left despite all their desires and emotion has not rewritten the basic laws of economics. The outcomes from their policies will not be different than the outcomes in history from the same ideas and policies. You print money, at some point money becomes worthless. You kill the spirit of entrepreneurs, at some point they give up and stop creating the jobs that employ everyone, including liberals.

    Time and time again in history, we've seen government try to manage economies and substitute make work "employment" for the real thing. Time and time again, it has failed. Because the other thing that liberals can't change is human nature. I think almost everyone would love that the left's socialist uptopia could be created, that there would be no poverty, everyone would have free medical care, plenty of food, nice housing. Only the most churlish of humanity would not want to see prosperity for all.

    But that isn't how it works on this planet. Whether you are a member of a herd of Gnus on the African plain or a member of a herd of humans in a country, some do better because of accident of birth, environment, genes, or just plain dumb luck. And some fall by the wayside. The only proven method for minimizing the size of the latter group is capitalism, and no that is not state capitalism or crony capitalism.

    The fundamental breakdown of liberalism is that it tries over and over again to repeal the law of nature, expecting a different result. The result is always the same, it always ends in failure and then a recycling/rebuilding. And it will continue to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    But the real answer is to give Obama and the left what they want and the consequences that are inevitable with it. The left despite all their desires and emotion has not rewritten the basic laws of economics. The outcomes from their policies will not be different than the outcomes in history from the same ideas and policies. You print money, at some point money becomes worthless. You kill the spirit of entrepreneurs, at some point they give up and stop creating the jobs that employ everyone, including liberals.

    Time and time again in history, we've seen government try to manage economies and substitute make work "employment" for the real thing. Time and time again, it has failed. Because the other thing that liberals can't change is human nature. I think almost everyone would love that the left's socialist uptopia could be created, that there would be no poverty, everyone would have free medical care, plenty of food, nice housing. Only the most churlish of humanity would not want to see prosperity for all.

    But that isn't how it works on this planet. Whether you are a member of a herd of Gnus on the African plain or a member of a herd of humans in a country, some do better because of accident of birth, environment, genes, or just plain dumb luck. And some fall by the wayside. The only proven method for minimizing the size of the latter group is capitalism, and no that is not state capitalism or crony capitalism.

    The fundamental breakdown of liberalism is that it tries over and over again to repeal the law of nature, expecting a different result. The result is always the same, it always ends in failure and then a recycling/rebuilding. And it will continue to do so.
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    If the same number of Republican voters came out that came out in 2008, Romney would have won easily.

    A lot of Republican voters (Ron Paul types) were put off by the fact he was Establishment. His Mormonism put off a lot of the religious voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxcutter View Post
    If the same number of Republican voters came out that came out in 2008, Romney would have won easily.

    A lot of Republican voters (Ron Paul types) were put off by the fact he was Establishment. His Mormonism put off a lot of the religious voters.
    Ron Paul would have had a better chance. He would have gotten more of the independent voters and the ones that leaned a little left too. Some could look over Mitt being a Mormon but some couldn't. I believe Ron would have done everything to prevent a war if possible but would have not left people defenseless. Our service men are not just bodies, they have family at home.

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    Ron Paul's mouth would have killed him.

    In an environment where two sentences killed candidates, Ron Paul was lucky to last as long as he did.

    Ron Paul is kinda like Newt in that he thinks out loud and in public. That's not to say what he is thinking is necessarily off-base, but it is often too unrefined to put out in front of the biased MSM.

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