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Thread: War with North Korea is close - a discussion

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    The leaders of both countries only want to hear what they want to hear.
    The difference is that Trump just ignores advise but Kim executes those who tell him what he does not want to hear.
    If Kim is hell bent on a strike either nuclear or otherwise, talks wouldn't be that fruitful as those attending them would only tell him lies, if only to keep themselves alive for another 24 hours

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    The one thing that I am most opposed to is a return to the status quo ante--i.e. to Little Kim's being a perpetual thorn in our collective side.

    So whenever I hear of someone's wanting a "de-escalation" of the current situation, I want to know, specifically, what he (or she) means.

    I desire the total and utter destruction of The Hermit Kingdom.

    Yes, this could be accomplished with all-out war--albeit not without significant "collateral damage."

    On the other hand, it could also be accomplished by a coup against Little Kim--in other words, regime change--and the reunification of the two Koreas.

    Regrettably, President Trump has said that he does not wish to go this route.

    But I do think that it should be seriously considered.

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    The fact that China and Russia voted with us and the rest of the UN's security council on the sanctions tells me there will be no war as long as Trump is smart with the advice he is accepting and the advice he is rejecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz View Post
    The fact that China and Russia voted with us and the rest of the UN's security council on the sanctions tells me there will be no war as long as Trump is smart with the advice he is accepting and the advice he is rejecting.
    I guess we will see when NK tests another ICBM or nuke.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Peter wrote:
    The North has indicated that its nuclear and missile program is not up for negotiation.
    They say a lot of things, most of which are not to be believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    They say a lot of things, most of which are not to be believed.
    The tests they are running and the success they are having disagrees with you. Could it be that you are sympathetic to NK as they run an ideology that aligns with your own? As such selective-reasoning is taking place?
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    The tests they are running and the success they are having disagrees with you. Could it be that you are sympathetic to NK as they run an ideology that aligns with your own? As such selective-reasoning is taking place?
    I don't expect an answer. You tend to not engage with those who disagree with you. Perhaps stick to video game reviews.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We know North Korea has nuclear weapons.

    We are told they may have miniaturized them. That is necessary to put it on top of an ICBM.

    We know they have ICBMs.

    Their last ICBM test seemed to indicate that a warhead would not survive re-entry into the atmosphere (the only good bit of news).

    We know that North Korea claims as recently as this weekend that they will not end their nuclear and missile programs.

    Here is an article that I posted in the past- it is what a US war with North Korea would look like.

    Here's how a preemptive strike on North Korea would go down




    Read the rest at the link.
    How to defeat N. Korea... Give them the option, remove the regime or we will commit to unlimited warfare against them if they damage any US or allied asset. Let them know we will unleash our generals and admirals on them with full backing and no intervention from their civilian masters.

    Get this message out there and it will end in the first few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    On the other hand, it could also be accomplished by a coup against Little Kim--in other words, regime change--and the reunification of the two Koreas.

    Regrettably, President Trump has said that he does not wish to go this route.

    But I do think that it should be seriously considered.
    How would that happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz View Post
    The fact that China and Russia voted with us and the rest of the UN's security council on the sanctions tells me there will be no war as long as Trump is smart with the advice he is accepting and the advice he is rejecting.
    The Russians and Chinese can live with NK having nukes. Their main issue is to not have a reunified Korea as a US ally on their borders.
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