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Thread: War with North Korea is close - a discussion

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    As of today, Kim Jong-un has apparently backed down, albeit with a face-saving measure--as I expected that he would.

    The face-saving measure, however--as I understand it--is that the US and South Korea no longer conduct joint exercises.

    And if that is, indeed, his proposal, then it contains a so-called "poison pill"...

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    Kim backed away from attacking Guam only because President Trump hinted at bombing dozens of North Korean missile sites in retaliation in an event of an ICBM attack on Guam. America needs to keep playing tough to contain North Korea without relying on South Korea. The new South Korean president is a leftist known for being sympathetic toward North Korea and South Korea is an unreliable ally under Moon, who would do the best he can to get in Trump's way.

    The president of South Korea has some sharp words for President Trump: South Korea gets to make the call about going to war with North Korea.“Only the Republic of Korea can make the decision for military action on the Korean Peninsula,” President Moon Jae-in said Tuesday in a nationally televised address. “Without the consent of the Republic of Korea, no country can determine to take military action.”

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/16/...ion-day-speech
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdTerm View Post
    Kim backed away from attacking Guam only because President Trump hinted at bombing dozens of North Korean missile sites in retaliation in an event of an ICBM attack on Guam. America needs to keep playing tough to contain North Korea without relying on South Korea. The new South Korean president is a leftist known for being sympathetic toward North Korea and South Korea is an unreliable ally under Moon, who would do the best he can to get in Trump's way.

    The president of South Korea has some sharp words for President Trump: South Korea gets to make the call about going to war with North Korea.“Only the Republic of Korea can make the decision for military action on the Korean Peninsula,” President Moon Jae-in said Tuesday in a nationally televised address. “Without the consent of the Republic of Korea, no country can determine to take military action.”

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/16/...ion-day-speech
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    The president of South Korea has some sharp words for President Trump: South Korea gets to make the call about going to war with North Korea.“Only the Republic of Korea can make the decision for military action on the Korean Peninsula,” President Moon Jae-in said Tuesday in a nationally televised address. “Without the consent of the Republic of Korea, no country can determine to take military action.”


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    Trust me, I would love to leave the Korean peninsula. But if NK hits the US proper......we dont need his consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    The president of South Korea has some sharp words for President Trump: South Korea gets to make the call about going to war with North Korea.“Only the Republic of Korea can make the decision for military action on the Korean Peninsula,” President Moon Jae-in said Tuesday in a nationally televised address. “Without the consent of the Republic of Korea, no country can determine to take military action.”


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    Trust me, I would love to leave the Korean peninsula. But if NK hits the US proper......we dont need his consent.
    I agree. Here is an article from the Washington Post on Moon Jae-in's statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    North Korea doesn't want to attack the USA. They just want the USA to leave them the hell alone. Nukes are the surest way to achieve that goal.
    Unfortunately, the powers in command could care less. That is what will cause Guam's ruin.

    If they don't care enough about their own people to leave NK alone, why shouldn't NK melt them as they have done to NK.

    Nobody wins.


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    Many wars begin in April.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Line of sight. But yes, the EMP Commission has studied this since 2000 or so. A well placed EMP strike (that may use 2-3 warheads) could destroy our grid and 90% of Americans would die inside a year.
    I think that's a bit dramatic.

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    Line of sight. But yes, the EMP Commission has studied this since 2000 or so. A well placed EMP strike (that may use 2-3 warheads) could destroy our grid and 90% of Americans would die inside a year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I think that's a bit dramatic.
    Everyone with medical conditions needing refrigerated meds will be high on the casualty list. The lack of clean water guarantees water-borne illnesses. The very young and the old will be dead within a month.

    The food supply runs out in less than a week. We become tribal. Those of us with weapons will take what we must to ensure our families are fed. I expect between 5-10% will be killed resisting. Another third will starve within three months. That gets us up to around one-half of the population.

    All news will be local. Canada will be off the grid. Northern Mexico too. Anyone coming will be coming to plunder and loot (just like our government).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I think that's a bit dramatic.
    An internet / industrial people suddenly dropped into a pre-industrial age? It would be brutal.
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