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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Yeah, it means the same thing. You like the laws you like, and you don't like the ones you don't. Do you think liberals and conservatives aren't applying the same (entirely subjective) judgements when they make their choices?
    Except the underlying rationale for liking or not liking a law remains exactly the same, i.e., moral absolutism. How do you not understand that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Except the underlying rationale for liking or not liking a law remains exactly the same, i.e., moral absolutism. How do you not understand that?
    Because he's a moral relativist--as he says, such moral judgment are "entirely subjective".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Except the underlying rationale for liking or not liking a law remains exactly the same, i.e., moral absolutism. How do you not understand that?
    Morals are different, at least in detail, for each individual.
    I don't insult, I diagnose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Morals are different, at least in detail, for each individual.
    That's besides the point.

    Libertarians have a consistent rationale for judging the legitimacy of laws. Liberals do not.

    What about this confuses you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    That's besides the point.

    Libertarians have a consistent rationale for judging the legitimacy of laws. Liberals do not.

    What about this confuses you?
    Oh I'm not confused, I just know that's bull$#@!. Libertarians are no more or less consistent than liberals or conservatives. You know why? Because we are all human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Oh I'm not confused, I just know that's bull$#@!. Libertarians are no more or less consistent than liberals or conservatives. You know why? Because we are all human beings.
    What he's saying is libertarians tends to stand on principle more often than libs or cons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    What he's saying is libertarians tends to stand on principle more often than libs or cons.
    Just because the principals are different doesn't mean both other groups don't "stand" on them.
    I don't insult, I diagnose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Just because the principals are different doesn't mean both other groups don't "stand" on them.
    Didn't exactly say that but can you name a few liberal principles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Didn't exactly say that but can you name a few liberal principles?
    You are changing the subject, but liberty, eqaulity, and tolerance are a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    You are changing the subject, but liberty, eqaulity, and tolerance are a few.
    Liberty, but you favor government regulation. Equality, implemented unequally? Tolerance for a few?

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