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    The U.S. defense department has plans in place to deal with North Korean aggression, but they're not going to make their plans public. And President Trump, knowing what the plan is, can afford to take his "tough talk" approach. The idea is that it's better to bring things to a head now than to kick the can down the road to a time when the North is better prepared. Previous Presidents didn't deal with the problem effectively, so now President Trump has to deal with it.

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    President Trump took responsibility for this crisis on January 20, 2017, just as President Obama did on January 20, 2009, and President Bush did on January 20, 2001, and President Clinton did on January 20, 1993. Every action President Trump has taken since January 20 could have either helped the situation or hurt it.

    Unfortunately, so far he seems to have chosen options that exacerbate the problem. It's been Amateur Hour in the Trump administration since day one and he has not taken any steps to fix that.
    "We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Trump doesn't keep his 'people' in line through intimidation and near starvation...... Trump doesn't kill, or, have killed, those who oppose him.
    All he ever contributes to anything is crap like that, him and handful of others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    President Trump took responsibility for this crisis on January 20, 2017, just as President Obama did on January 20, 2009, and President Bush did on January 20, 2001, and President Clinton did on January 20, 1993. Every action President Trump has taken since January 20 could have either helped the situation or hurt it.

    Unfortunately, so far he seems to have chosen options that exacerbate the problem. It's been Amateur Hour in the Trump administration since day one and he has not taken any steps to fix that.
    So you have the same synopsis for the prior 3 presidents then also right ? since they all failed, plus clinton gave them money to be nice.

    NK cannot continue to threaten to fire off rockets and gain nuclear strength. Somewhere along the line the price will be paid and it wont be pretty. Whether its trump or the next one.
    Last edited by Common; 08-12-2017 at 06:47 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    President Trump took responsibility for this crisis on January 20, 2017, just as President Obama did on January 20, 2009, and President Bush did on January 20, 2001, and President Clinton did on January 20, 1993. Every action President Trump has taken since January 20 could have either helped the situation or hurt it.

    Unfortunately, so far he seems to have chosen options that exacerbate the problem. It's been Amateur Hour in the Trump administration since day one and he has not taken any steps to fix that.
    So what should he do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    So what should he do?
    Thank you.

    I've tried to give him the floor as well, it's amazing the critics don't offer solutions nor even venture a suggestion. Harder t defend your own position than to criticize others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Trump doesn't keep his 'people' in line through intimidation and near starvation...... Trump doesn't kill, or, have killed, those who oppose him.
    SHHHHH! Don't give him any ideas!
    "Sir, I exist!" cried a man to the Universe.
    "However," replied the Universe, "that fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    So you have the same synopsis for the prior 3 presidents then also right ? since they all failed, plus clinton gave them money to be nice.

    NK cannot continue to threaten to fire off rockets and gain nuclear strength. Somewhere along the line the price will be paid and it wont be pretty. Whether its trump or the next one.
    My very first paragraph said the previous three presidents are just as responsible for the current state of affairs.
    "We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), American labor leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    So what should he do?
    He should start by shutting down his Twitter account and keeping his bombastic rhetoric to himself. He's making the same mistake Obama made, he's running his mouth too much. Now that he's promised "fire and fury," he forces himself into a corner. He'll have to either follow through (which at this stage would be disastrous, the initial death toll could be around 300k Americans and millions of civilians) or make himself and our country look weak and embolden the NOKOs.
    "We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    But we need new boggiemen to scare the people out of their rights and into supporting the war machine

    Dangerous nonsense.

    North Korea is not your buddy.
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