Pop-up safe-injection site opens in Toronto w/o city approval

[Abby08]

It certainly doesn't discourage heroin use. What's next? Government providing heroin addicts with safe heroin?

Doling out measured amounts, so they don't overdose?

[Tahuyaman]

Doling out measured amounts, so they don't overdose?

Bad or otherwise tainted heroin kilks addicted sll the time. Sooner or later government is going to provide junkies with a safe product.

You are not going to motivate an addict to seek treatment while you are enabling their addiction.

[Tahuyaman]

Then they will require to have nurse's and doctor's on site to assist and supervise. And of course these safe injection sites will be located in city parks and such where people take their children to play.

[Adelaide]

My impression is addicts don't need encouragement, nor does discouragement help much. They're addicted, don't like it, and have to hit bottom and reach out. Clean needles means they'll live longer and hopefully survive.

Yeah - exactly.

The "clean needles encourages drug use" crowd probably also think birth control makes women $#@!s.

[Adelaide]

Why would anyone support enabling drug addictions?

It is enabling them to some degree - but they're addicts, and having clean needles or dirty needles isn't going to encourage them to get help. Clean needles will simply mean they are less likely to get a transmitted disease from sharing used needles.

[Adelaide]

It certainly doesn't discourage heroin use. What's next? Government providing heroin addicts with safe heroin?

Right. And same-sex marriage will lead to legalizing bestiality... wait... nope... Let's try to keep the discussion in the realm of what is realistic. The government handing out an illegal, controlled substance is never going to happen.

[resister]

It is enabling them to some degree - but they're addicts, and having clean needles or dirty needles isn't going to encourage them to get help. Clean needles will simply mean they are less likely to get a transmitted disease from sharing used needles.

To a degree, I can see that, but unless they give them needles to take with for that 2 am hit, they will still use what is available.

[Tahuyaman]

It is enabling them to some degree - but they're addicts, and having clean needles or dirty needles isn't going to encourage them to get help. Clean needles will simply mean they are less likely to get a transmitted disease from sharing used needles.

If you were truly concerned about the personal welfare of the addict, you'd be finding ways to get these people into treatment.

[Tahuyaman]

Right. And same-sex marriage will lead to legalizing bestiality... wait... nope... Let's try to keep the discussion in the realm of what is realistic. The government handing out an illegal, controlled substance is never going to happen.

First, you made a really stupid leap with that one, but providing safe heroin to junkies wasn't something I just thought up just now. It has been proposed in two far left wing west coast cities.

[Common]

It doesn't encourage using drugs or continuing to use drugs. It simply allows addicts to have safe, clean needles rather than re-using and sharing needles.

I would think it encourages them for having a sanctioned safe place to shoot drugs without having to scrounge needles, its an enabler