Why the left is responisble for everything in Charlottesville

[Chris]

I know that's the PC thing to say right now, but it's not really true.

Nazis and KKK types have been protesting and demonstrating in America for decades. Their rallies are typically uneventful. Some flag-waving, some slogans, some speeches. Antifa and company are the ones with a well-earned reputation for violence, intimidation, and disruption. Indeed, they are totally open and unapologetic about their violent methods. They have said, again and again, that "fascists" are not entitled to free speech. Antifa is 100% responsible for the chaos in Charlottesville.

But they got violent in Charlottesville as well. From what I saw in videos it wasn't just self-defense.

[Ethereal]

But they got violent in Charlottesville as well. From what I saw in videos it wasn't just self-defense.

The Antifa thugs openly stated their intention to go bash the fascists before, during, and after the incident. Antifa openly admits this. They showed up at that rally to attack people.

[Chris]

The Antifa thugs openly stated their intention to go bash the fascists before, during, and after the incident. Antifa openly admits this. They showed up at that rally to attack people.

I agree, they did, they showed up in force, about 10000 to the 500 protesters. But I think the protesters got violent too. It's hard to determine the distance of news reports and videos.

[Ethereal]

I agree, they did, they showed up in force, about 10000 to the 500 protesters. But I think the protesters got violent too. It's hard to determine the distance of news reports and videos.

Antifa went to Charlottesville with the express purpose of instigating a violent conflict and that's exactly what happened. They are 100% responsible.

[Common Sense]

Both sides were looking for conflict...

The white nationalists didn't show up with helmets, shields and sticks for no reason. Same goes for the Antifa crowd.

[Chris]

Both sides were looking for conflict...

The white nationalists didn't show up with helmets, shields and sticks for no reason. Same goes for the Antifa crowd.

A helmet etc does imply only offense as it can as well be used in defense.

The shields are flimsy things for show.


I agree, both got violent.

[Chris]

Antifa went to Charlottesville with the express purpose of instigating a violent conflict and that's exactly what happened. They are 100% responsible.

That is what antifa is all about, violence, chaos.

[Ethereal]

Both sides were looking for conflict...

The white nationalists didn't show up with helmets, shields and sticks for no reason. Same goes for the Antifa crowd.

They showed up with helmets and shields for a very good reason, i.e., the express declaration of Antifa to bash "fascists" anywhere and everywhere.

Put simply, if you know a bunch of violent agitators who hate you are going to show up at your rally, it behooves you to take measures to defend yourself.

[Chris]

The problem I have here is that while I think the counter-protesters (Antifa) came to fight, the protesters were ready to fight back and, if the driver who killed one and injured others, can be tied definitively to them, then they went too far.

One group disavowed any connection and the leader of the group that organized the protest said the driver “did the wrong thing.”

[Green Arrow]

As long as they obey the law, they are no more of a problem than any other political faction marching in the streets.

History tells a different story.