User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Social Security and Medicare

  1. #1
    Points: 500,453, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cigar's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    325517
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Wow, what next?
    Posts
    78,900
    Points
    500,453
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    4,088
    Thanked 12,276x in 9,780 Posts
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Question Social Security and Medicare

    Why are these framed as Entitlements for "everyone", when in reality you have to contribute in order to benefit?

    Who get's SS or Medicare for free without contribution?

    Am I missing something?

  2. #2
    Points: 30,897, Level: 42
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 153
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Social25000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Agravan's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    7999
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    5,365
    Points
    30,897
    Level
    42
    Thanks Given
    2,594
    Thanked 1,832x in 1,330 Posts
    Mentioned
    26 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Illegals.
    Democrats believe that "politics is war by other means." And they are at war with America, with common sense and even common decency. Those who would mount an effective opposition had better have a high tolerance for slime, slander and abuse.

  3. #3
    Points: 56,719, Level: 58
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 1,631
    Overall activity: 0.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience PointsTagger Second Class
    patrickt's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    17597
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Living in Oaxaca, Mexico, born in Memphis and worked in Colorado
    Posts
    11,977
    Points
    56,719
    Level
    58
    Thanks Given
    916
    Thanked 5,009x in 3,481 Posts
    Mentioned
    54 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    No, illegals don't. I realize they're popular scapegoats but the ones I know drawing Social Security paid their FICA taxes and are drawing their checks now. The ones I know live in Mexico so they don't get Medicare.

    Wives draw social security based on their husband's work so they get a free ride even if they're divorced.

    It might be called an "entitlement" because there is no contractual agreement. It's a tax that you have to pay and whether or not you ever get anything back is strictly up to the whim of the government.

  4. #4
    Points: 20,492, Level: 34
    Level completed: 77%, Points required for next Level: 258
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Taxcutter's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    926
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    770
    Points
    20,492
    Level
    34
    Thanks Given
    2
    Thanked 203x in 143 Posts
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You never had to contribute to collect from either program. They were always "pay as you go" which is four words for "Ponzi scheme." Otherwise there would have been no recipients for decades. FDR and LBJ couldn't have that.

    Legal immigrants get these benefits all the time. Old stoners who never paid much into the system get full benefits.

  5. #5
    Points: 500,453, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cigar's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    325517
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Wow, what next?
    Posts
    78,900
    Points
    500,453
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    4,088
    Thanked 12,276x in 9,780 Posts
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Oh God ... this explains everything

  6. #6
    Points: 56,719, Level: 58
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 1,631
    Overall activity: 0.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience PointsTagger Second Class
    patrickt's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    17597
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Living in Oaxaca, Mexico, born in Memphis and worked in Colorado
    Posts
    11,977
    Points
    56,719
    Level
    58
    Thanks Given
    916
    Thanked 5,009x in 3,481 Posts
    Mentioned
    54 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sorry, Cigar, but some things are simply beyond you. 2+2=4 comes to mind. Taxcutter is right. Originally, people drew Social Security without having put anything in. Now people put in and are unlikely to ever draw out what they put in. Tell me, Cigar, what percentage of his gross income does a self-employed lawn maintenance guy who earns $80,000 a year pay for Social Security and Medicare? Feel free to use Google.

  7. #7
    Points: 500,453, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cigar's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    325517
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Wow, what next?
    Posts
    78,900
    Points
    500,453
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    4,088
    Thanked 12,276x in 9,780 Posts
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Sorry, Cigar, but some things are simply beyond you. 2+2=4 comes to mind. Taxcutter is right. Originally, people drew Social Security without having put anything in. Now people put in and are unlikely to ever draw out what they put in. Tell me, Cigar, what percentage of his gross income does a self-employed lawn maintenance guy who earns $80,000 a year pay for Social Security and Medicare? Feel free to use Google.

    Sorry I was distracted ... is it me or did President Obama just go Angry Black Man on National TV with his speech today?

    I think we're getting ready to see Obama open up a can of ....


+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts