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    PUI is generally a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    I have not really shifted - I have learned more about US law, including and specifically the Constitution. I think I have more respect for it, and as a Canadian, I was from the outside looking in. I have a different perspective being "in". I still believe in a lot of socialist ideas, but maybe not in the context of the United States, or to a lesser degree.
    That's progress.
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    If you take healthcare as an example, I realize that states have rights and that the US is not supposed to have a centralized government. Considering those things, I say that each state should consider whether they want a single-payer system and how they could go about it or what might prevent it from being successful at that level.
    Agreed. Of course, I would oppose it in whatever state I live in. You might support it. That's the way our country was set up. The 10th Amendment covers it pretty well.
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    With firearms, I still support most regulations in place currently but not suggested regulations in most cases that I think would take it too far (and I am an NRA member).
    An articulate and reasonable position. Congrats on being NRA, btw. Good organization.
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    I don't support illegal immigration-related issues because I am a legal immigrant and I know that the process I have to go through is more difficult because of illegal immigrants... but I also sympathize with them because I am capable of realizing they are often fleeing horrible conditions or trying to join their families or any number of reasons.
    I feel bad for some of them, too, but hardship is no excuse for breaking the law. Get in line like everyone else.
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    On abortion, I believe the government should not be involved and it should be left to a woman and her doctor.
    Agreed. You want one? You pay for it, both financially and with a lifetime of guilt. I know a number of women who had abortions when young and only the most calloused and emotionally damaged refuse to admit the regret.
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    Still against capital punishment.
    If you rape and kill children, you should be put to death. Disagree?
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    Still for same-sex rights.
    I'm for equal rights for all.
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    And so on. I might be some leftist version of libertarian, like Chomsky, but not a conservative. While I appreciate the Constitution, I still think it is questionable to apply a document written so long ago literally to current issues. I believe that it has to be interpreted to some degree for relevance. I would like to see some major reforms within the judicial system because I believe they have a lot of power on constitutional issues.
    The fundamental principals of our Constitution are timeless. It's like the Ten Commandments.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
    across a period of many years if he is
    to have a chance of succeeding"

    ~RZ67~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    That's progress.

    Agreed. Of course, I would oppose it in whatever state I live in. You might support it. That's the way our country was set up. The 10th Amendment covers it pretty well.

    An articulate and reasonable position. Congrats on being NRA, btw. Good organization.

    I feel bad for some of them, too, but hardship is no excuse for breaking the law. Get in line like everyone else.

    Agreed. You want one? You pay for it, both financially and with a lifetime of guilt. I know a number of women who had abortions when young and only the most calloused and emotionally damaged refuse to admit the regret.

    If you rape and kill children, you should be put to death. Disagree?

    I'm for equal rights for all.

    The fundamental principals of our Constitution are timeless. It's like the Ten Commandments.
    I disagree with the state putting anyone to death. Too often it is inhumane, and it is too often if even one is innocent. If you could guarentee a painless death (impossible) and guarentee guilt (also impossible) I would probably still be opposed to it, but on a moral basis rather than a rational one.

    I do support certain economic policies that might be considered more liberal than average. I believe in regulation in that regard. I supported Glass-Steagall, for example. But then, I support lowering the corporate tax rate to 15% - the same as Canada. The fact it has been at 35% is mind boggling.

    In terms of government, I think it is too inefficient. It has nothing to do with size, although it is probably too large. But it is the blatant inefficiency at places like the FDA, IRS, and similar agencies that drives me a bit bonkers. Americans are not getting what they're paying for, and they are paying a lot. Same thing with education. It could be done better for less money if there were accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    I disagree with the state putting anyone to death. Too often it is inhumane, and it is too often if even one is innocent. If you could guarentee a painless death (impossible) and guarentee guilt (also impossible) I would probably still be opposed to it, but on a moral basis rather than a rational one.

    I do support certain economic policies that might be considered more liberal than average. I believe in regulation in that regard. I supported Glass-Steagall, for example. But then, I support lowering the corporate tax rate to 15% - the same as Canada. The fact it has been at 35% is mind boggling.

    In terms of government, I think it is too inefficient. It has nothing to do with size, although it is probably too large. But it is the blatant inefficiency at places like the FDA, IRS, and similar agencies that drives me a bit bonkers. Americans are not getting what they're paying for, and they are paying a lot. Same thing with education. It could be done better for less money if there were accountability.
    Stop. I'm starting to like you....
    Last edited by Kalkin; 08-17-2017 at 10:59 PM.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
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    ~RZ67~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    Stop. I'm starting to like you....

    (she's pretty lovable....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    (she's pretty lovable....)
    Speaking as a lawyer or a human being?
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
    across a period of many years if he is
    to have a chance of succeeding"

    ~RZ67~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    Are you a lefty? You seem more logical than those clowns, tbh.
    Actually I'm ambidextrous. I bowl and play golf right handed, tennis and softball left handed.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Actually I'm ambidextrous. I bowl and play golf right handed, tennis and softball left handed.
    Middle of the road often gets run over. Best to keep you protests on the sidewalk.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
    across a period of many years if he is
    to have a chance of succeeding"

    ~RZ67~

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