Witches and Google

[Dr. Who]

In being overly dramatic and dire, you draw attention to yourself rather than whatever long-winded cause your preaching today. Sorry, but you ought to know that.

Other than that, what witches, nationalists and Damore, who wrote a memo based on biological facts, have to do with each other, you fail to show.

I think Polly was describing her prose with "I swear I'm not trying to be overly dramatic or dire! I'm just trying to wake people up." So was I.

Nothing to say on the topic?

Polly, I said nothing about your credibility. I repeated your description of your prose as "overly dramatic or dire," and you better believe flamboyant language calls attention only to the speaker, not their cause.


No one has denied the existence of Nazi decades ago. But neo-Nazis are not Nazis. And you're off your cause already.

Wow.

[IMPress Polly]

Adelaide wrote:
A vast majority of people oppose the idea of taking away the rights of women to vote. A vast majority of people do not oppose women in the work force, although on an individual basis there may be some opposition to mothers in the workplace (my friend's marriages appear to fall into that category). It seems like there is a resurgence of men believing that when a woman becomes a mother she should suddenly be Debbie homemaker and do all the chores, all the errands, all the meals, while taking care of an infant... as though maternity leave is just vacation time. They fail to realize that when an infant sleeps, the mother has to sleep. Maybe it is a disconnect between a husband and wife (or wife/wife, husband/husband) where one can't understand the stress of being the one who takes care of the infant all day and the exhaustion of being a new mom.

While I do not think it will be an idea that will grow or spread, especially since my age group and the age group below me would consider this complete nonsense, it still makes me pause a bit. It might not catch on, but it is disconcerting that it exists to begin with. But, it also feels inevitable to some degree that some people seem so caught in the past and I bet if I looked there would be a handful of women advocating that men shouldn't vote. There are always a few crazy people or groups.

I've been around a lot of women's advocacy groups over the years, some of which could be described as indeed more out there than others, but I've yet to see a single one call for the disenfranchisement of men, so I think that worries about extreme misandry may be exaggerated. You may have to look pretty hard to find that level of it.

That point aside though, I think that, like many Democrats, you excessively romanticize younger Americans and carry a somewhat overly optimistic view of them. In reality, 58% of today's high school seniors, when surveyed on the subject, agree with the claim that the best family arrangement is one wherein the man is the main income-earner and the woman takes care of the home; up from 42% of high school seniors in 1994. 40% of high seniors furthermore agreed with the statement that "the husband should make all the important decisions in the family" in 2014; up from 30% of high school seniors two decades earlier. Statistically speaking, those are Bernie Sanders voters! I point that out to highlight that you can't necessarily always tell what someone's actual attitudes on everything are by their age or voting patterns. The youth represent the future, so if they're embracing more conservative views about gender roles, what does that imply the future most likely entails if not at minimum a further curbing of the rights of women?

(Thank you for your well thought-out post, by the way. THAT's the kind of contribution I was looking for!)

[Safety]

Wow.

Thanks, it's amazing how "I'm" twisting what is written in plain sight.

[Safety]

Will you stop twisting words, Safety. It's nigh on lying at this point.

You're full of it, see post 11.

[IMPress Polly]

How do I formally request that Chris be banned from this thread because he's kind of wrecking everything? (I was looking for contributions more like Adelaide's.) Or is that no longer an option on the tPF threads? (Sorry, I'm no longer really in tune on how the rules have evolved lately.)

[Chris]

How do I formally request that Chris be banned from this thread? Or is that no longer an option on the tPF threads? (Sorry, I'm no longer really in tune on how the rules have evolved lately.)

I'll leave your thread having made my point.

[IMPress Polly]

Chris wrote:
I'll leave your thread having made my point.

I appreciate your willingness.

[Private Pickle]

How do I formally request that Chris be banned from this thread because he's kind of wrecking everything? (I was looking for contributions more like Adelaide's.) Or is that no longer an option on the tPF threads? (Sorry, I'm no longer really in tune on how the rules have evolved lately.)

Typical leftist. Don't like alternative perspectives? Silence them. Good job.

[Safety]

How do I formally request that Chris be banned from this thread because he's kind of wrecking everything? (I was looking for contributions more like Adelaide's.) Or is that no longer an option on the tPF threads? (Sorry, I'm no longer really in tune on how the rules have evolved lately.)

Report the post made by the member you would like to request a thread ban on, then write "Please remove this member from my thread" in the report box then click "send report".

[Kalkin]

What I seek to point out here is that that's how it starts. That's how the complete and total elimination of all the rights and gains of women begins.

Do you really think this is happening? Really? lol.