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    Post The Poor Will Be the First Over the Fiscal Cliff

    If you have time give a chance to read this. So what everyone thinks? Agree? Disagree? I think it pretty true reflecting the current situation and what might happen.

    Click the link below to read: Thank you
    http://www.thenation.com/blog/171246...r-fiscal-cliff
    Last edited by Cali; 11-15-2012 at 09:28 AM.

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    No doubt about it. It is already happening. It has been happening as they go over the cliff of Obama's job killing policies. In a short month and a half, huge job killing ObamaCare taxes kick in. Good jobs will continue to be replaced with part time jobs, or no jobs at all. That's been going on for some time. If you look under the fiction of the employment data Obama and the media tout, to the real numbers like the U6 and the number of people who have given up looking for work, you see the reality.

    If you look at what few jobs have been created, you see the reality that most are part time and pay poorly. Payroll tax collections keep dropping as underemployed people don't pay near as much in taxes as people with good jobs.

    If you look at the record filings for SS disability, the record usage of food stamps, the rapidly becoming record poverty data, you see the reality.

    Romney was too much of a government guy and a statist to really reverse this. He would have slowed it down. Small business would not be running for the hills the way they are now. But the underlying reality, that there is simply too much government costing too much today in America, would continue to drag the economy down regardless of who "won" the election.

    Everybody lost. In due course when it becomes apparent that Obama's legacy is going to be a depression too big to hide, even he will lose. Of course, it will still be Bush's fault.


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    I agree with you, I also agree with what that blog write, that is why I posted it here so hopefully the liberals can at least read it, LOL! I'm sure it won't change their mind, they are still in lala-land somewhere in their own fantasy world and waiting for Obama's freebies. It is OK, that is what they believe, that is what they voted for. Let it be.

    As much as I love this country, I pray for USA everyday. But sometimes I just want Republicans to not try to help out anything. Just let all Obama policies to passed, and just let's everything goes Obama ways, and play it all out the way Obama wants, just let it all collapse. Then hopefully some Liberals will wake up, But I doubt, 4 years of Obama first term, they don't see it, Then probably this next 4 years they still won't see it. Yup, you right, it all Bush fault, LOL! Dang.

    I have see many Liberals are all so happy that Obama's win, and they say 2016 president will be Hilary Clinton, the first woman president in USA. They just don't get it! Is not about the race/color skin of the person, it is not also the sex/gender of the person. It is about who can bring this country back up, and at least save the economy, if not save, at least not make this economy WORST!!
    Last edited by Cali; 11-15-2012 at 09:23 AM.

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    “Conservatism is the fear that somewhere, somehow, someone you think is your inferior is being treated as your equal"


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    As long as it promotes the class warfare of the liberals the poor will have not been sacrificed in vain. President Obama has said he will not yield on punishing the wealthy and if the poor suffer, so be it. We've watched President Obama pursue socialism at the expense of Americans. He's making more poor as fast as he can. That's his goal and he considers them cannon fodder in the class war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali View Post
    If you have time give a chance to read this. So what everyone thinks? Agree? Disagree? I think it pretty true reflecting the current situation and what might happen.

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    http://www.thenation.com/blog/171246...r-fiscal-cliff
    Agree, the "real" poor are always hit 1st b/c they have no walls built up to shield them from fiscal/economic matters. They are exposed.

    But ya got to understand, that is Obama's whole plan. He is radicalizing the poor through his Alinsky ways.

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    Agree, the first harmed are always those liberals claim to be helping. Remember Reagan's famous words: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

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    And sadly the poor don't understand this, they keep voting for this man. Damn it, I think I am the only poor with minimum wage job actually see through this. Everyone else around me is like, "we love Obama, the first president who is not white, blah blah, and 2016 will be the first woman president in USA, we will make history"
    They JUST don't get it! Let all this collapse then, when there not enough money to give them all their freebies, and when they even find it harder to find a job, then hopefully some will wake up.

    What really make me unhappy is why do the Congress and all the others Democrats not see through this? Are they really that afraid of Obama? I means, this country is also build on their great grandfathers blood and sweats too, overall Democrats are also American. If USA is hurt, they will be affected too, I means USA is also their homeland. They should Say something, why just be Obama puppet and listen to everything he said, ARG!!
    Last edited by Cali; 11-15-2012 at 09:49 AM.

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    Well, it's only natural to try and attain what you desire in the easiest way possible, and that's political means, dependency on government here, rather than economic means. And that is why the poor will suffer first.

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    why is it none of you remember how healthcare costs were skyrocketing before this legislation?

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