Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Lose Anti-Trust Debates Lawsuit

**Chris** · 08-31-2017, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by AeonPax

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All I'm saying, strictly speaking, this issue was not decided on constitutional grounds. Which means, ex post facto, that this issue is still technically open. Consider this; abortion (in and of itself) was not the legal argument that propelled this issue to SCOTUS, it was "The Right to Privacy". Obergefell v. Hodges was decided on the grounds of the Commerce Acts, so technically, SCOTUS side stepped the issue of same sex marriage. Appellate courts can do the same thing too.

Yes, agree, the issue is still open. Maybe Johnson and Stein will pursue it to the next level.

**Tahuyaman** · 08-31-2017, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Perianne

What is your opinion? Should a person have to have at least a certain percentage in order to participate? What would that percentage be?

Gary Johnson is a former Governor. He was a credible candidate. He was virtually shut out by the establishment media who controls messaging.

**The Xl** · 08-31-2017, 01:07 PM

It's all a fraud

**Chris** · 08-31-2017, 01:08 PM

Democracy in America, you betcha. THe government is bought and sold, it sells out to the highest bidders.

**The Xl** · 08-31-2017, 01:11 PM

As bull$#@! as the system is, Johnson kinda screwed himself this time around though. He was polling around 10 percent, he could have gotten to 15 If he didn't start acting like a malfunctioning potato.

**Tahuyaman** · 08-31-2017, 01:31 PM

Every candidate makes the occasional gaff or ill advised statement. The media pounces on those who they want to marginalize.

**Chris** · 08-31-2017, 01:36 PM

Gary acted too clownish. I think that's in part in his character, but also in part to disarm people's fears of libertarianism as we get it from both sides.

**The Xl** · 08-31-2017, 01:51 PM

Gary acted weird, has the Aleppo goof, and picked a vp who supported gun control. That was a wrap for him.

**donttread** · 08-31-2017, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Chris

The duopoly maintains its stranglehold on democracy based solely on standing.

Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Lose Anti-Trust Debates Lawsuit

PDF of opinion: https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/3C9F51CF890774B68525818B005016B2/$file/16-7107-1690481.pdf

Of course they lost . The two parties of scum that kept them out of the debate own most of the courts. They might better sponsor protest with the slogan "What are you $#@!s so afraid of that you won't debate us?"

**Tahuyaman** · 08-31-2017, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Chris

Gary acted too clownish. I think that's in part in his character, but also in part to disarm people's fears of libertarianism as we get it from both sides.

The media portrayed him
as a cartoonish figure. He had more reasonable stances on all the issues than any of the nominees.

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