VIP System Town Hall

[Captain Obvious]

Again, this is about the VIP system, not about members. Threadbans will follow.

Coming to you from the depths of inner space

Just get rid of it, its not working anyway.

[gamewell45]

I honestly have no clear idea what the VIP's are and what their function here is.

[Ethereal]

Lies and spin work better behind the scenes than in the front page.

Bethere and other members of the clique are whining about being unfairly targeted by the MODS. What this really means is they don't get their way 100% of the time. All you need to do in order to disprove their hypothesis is look at how many conservatives have been banned versus liberals. You can also look at how long it took to ban liberals like Cigar versus conservatives, i.e., MUCH longer. Del has been given an even longer rope than Cigar had. This is only because the clique stands behind them. For whatever reason, certain liberals interpret any challenge or resistance to their whims as unfair. If they don't get everything they want, exactly the way they want, then something must be wrong. I mean, just look at how they responded to losing the 2016 elections. This is just how they are.

[Ethereal]

I honestly have no clear idea what the VIP's are and what their function here is.

It's pretty simple.

They get a fancy title and some bold blue lettering to set them apart from the regular members.

And they get their own private forum to talk to each other and the MODS about how the forum should be run.

But nobody gets to see what they talk about or how they're influencing the forum.

And some of the more privileged VIPS like it that way.

In short, it's just a gratuitous ego booster for certain members of the forum.

[Ethereal]

Again, this is about the VIP system, not about members. Threadbans will follow.

Coming to you from the depths of inner space

I only just saw this now.

I will try to keep it only to the VIP system and not members.

[Ethereal]

Have the VIPs selected by the general membership.

Why keep them around at all?

[MisterVeritis]

What can you VIPs tell me about the VIP system? What is it for? How are VIPs selected? Are VIPS subject to appraisals?

[Tahuyaman]

I was under the impression that VIP's were responsible for tweaking or establishing the rules of the forum
and providing feedback on the issuing of infractions and bans. Mods and admin should be able to do that themselves. It seems to me that the rules of the forum are established. Enforcing the rules is the problem, not creating more.

It it might be best to eliminate the position as it's redundant.

[Ravens Fan]

What can you VIPs tell me about the VIP system? What is it for? How are VIPs selected? Are VIPS subject to appraisals?

They are basically the ones who make the rules. They also advise ADMIN and us Mods when we need it. They look for ways to improve the forum and set the example for what is expected from the membership.

They choose other VIP's from the general membership based on quality of posts, adherence to the rules and participation.

The only "appraisal the that are subject to at present is that we expect them to be somewhat active, although like many of us, life does happen sometimes.

For the record, they do not Moderate nor do they have any say in how the Mod team handles rule violations.


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[MisterVeritis]

It's pretty simple.

They get a fancy title and some bold blue lettering to set them apart from the regular members.
And they get their own private forum to talk to each other and the MODS about how the forum should be run.
But nobody gets to see what they talk about or how they're influencing the forum.
And some of the more privileged VIPS like it that way.
In short, it's just a gratuitous ego booster for certain members of the forum.

I have a few questions.

What is this board's purpose? I assume it is to generate income for its owners.
Given that what role do moderators and VIPs each play in increasing net income?

What responsibilities do moderators have?
What responsibilities do VIPs have?

Given the clear divisiveness of the VIP system, operating in secret, is it helping to accomplish healthy board growth?

Are there metrics? How much additional traffic is generated by the VIPs? How much is generated by members?