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Thread: Never Taught In Our Pubic Schools. A Time When More Slaves In The Americas Were White

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    Slavery, generally speaking, was always a much smaller enterprise in North America than it was in the sugar growing regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Americans assumed the same thing prior to the invention of the cotton gin. The fact is that it took a major war and the utter devestation of the southern USA to achieve what northern capitalists desired.
    That's true, but that doesn't mean the demand for slaves wouldn't have dried up eventually, does it? Obviously we didn't end slavery until after the Civil War, and even then it was over in name only. By that I mean blacks in the south were still treated harshly and still usually worked for their former masters. But eventually I think the rise of the green revolution and other technologies that drastically simplified farming would have brought down the demand. Then again, Hispanic immigrants are still exploited on farms today. I concede the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    That's true, but that doesn't mean the demand for slaves wouldn't have dried up eventually, does it? Obviously we didn't end slavery until after the Civil War, and even then it was over in name only. By that I mean blacks in the south were still treated harshly and still usually worked for their former masters. But eventually I think the rise of the green revolution and other technologies that drastically simplified farming would have brought down the demand. Then again, Hispanic immigrants are still exploited on farms today. I concede the point.
    I'm only disagreeing with the claim of inevitability. I just don't think that's true. The economic benefits of a slave labor system could have had ups and downs just like it has had in the past. American intellectuals thought slavery was on the ropes in the late 18th Century but boy were they wrong. It came back with a vengeance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I'm only disagreeing with the claim of inevitability. I just don't think that's true. The economic benefits of a slave labor system could have had ups and downs just like it has had in the past. American intellectuals thought slavery was on the ropes in the late 18th Century but boy were they wrong. It came back with a vengeance.
    This is true. That's why the founders didn't think it was important to do anything about slavery at the time. You'd think I would be more keen on all of this, given that my high school history teacher was a Marxist by the name of Che. Not even joking, that was his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    This is true. That's why the founders didn't think it was important to do anything about slavery at the time. You'd think I would be more keen on all of this, given that my high school history teacher was a Marxist by the name of Che. Not even joking, that was his name.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    Anything goes here, this board doesn't have the sense to toss the real trolls. It does, however, have an excellent ignore feature.

    Nothing outspoken about your first thread, however. You do know I was being facetious? You're absolutely right that indentured service was a form of slavery.

    Maybe we white folks should be asking for reparations too.
    Isn't indentured service still alive and well? For example, any mortgage application demands your committment for up to 30 years, but what job/business situation can be guaranteed to keep pumping uninterrupted for 30 years? At least 100 years ago, you didn't need a mortgage to get a house, and you didn't need to pay astronomical permit/inspection/license fees to get a plot to build on. And not your every step was constantly tracked by a centralized credit monitor or a centralized other monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsouth View Post
    As I have mentioned; the documented fact, there was a time in the Americas when most slaves were white; but a fact that our public schools avoid teaching. Any comments? I'm guessing if it were taught, it may somehow level the field; and we know that's something our liberals avoid like the plague. Just my opinion. Please, not the indentured servant reply. That got very old a long long time ago. They were slaves.
    Because its untrue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Slavery, generally speaking, was always a much smaller enterprise in North America than it was in the sugar growing regions.
    Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, the Carolinas, Georgia all had large plantations growing everything from cotton to rice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaarona View Post
    Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, the Carolinas, Georgia all had large plantations growing everything from cotton to rice.
    I know that. Slavery, generally speaking, was always a much smaller enterprise in North America than it was in the sugar growing regions. The VAST majority of slaves were sold in the Carribean and in South American sugar regions.
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    In fact, there was not just a quantitative difference but a qualitative difference as well. Africans were often worked until they died on the large sugar estates and were then simply replaced. The institution was quite different in the sugar growing regions of Latin America.
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