Ok me first ...
Why not both ??
It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.
They're not good lookin, dude. Sorry to have to tell you this. I would give them 6/10 at the most. Too many face lines. Maybe for David Petraeus though, I certainly see it from his angle especially when you see a pic of the woman he married.
You ought to see my girl, she's 8/10 for sure.