"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
IMPress Polly (09-06-2017)
This is true. The reason I didn't bring that one up is because we don't yet know how strong it will become and, more compellingly, because the meteorologists tell us that that one, in contrast to Irma, is unlikely to ever make landfall.Green Arrow wrote:
And now Jose is developing right behind Irma.
Green Arrow (09-06-2017)
Hurricane seasons vary based on a lot of factors that have little to do with climate change. This year has been fairly inactive compared to past years. Far less deaths, too.
Doesn't mean climate change is not an issue or that it isn't influencing hurricane patterns, but it's a lot more complicated than that.
@ To Protect Against the Next Harvey, Forget Zoning and Roll Back Government Meddling InsteadBut we're going to get more storms like this, right? Because of global warming and all that? Maybe. Or maybe not.
"For the 21st century, some models project no change or a small reduction in the frequency of hurricanes, while others show an increase in frequency," according to the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions. "More recent work shows that there is a trade-off between intensity and frequency—that as warmer oceans bolster hurricane intensity, fewer storms actually form."
But, again, Harvey is a real outlier by any measure of storms. It's not the sort of event you expect on a regular basis—a "1-in-1,000-year flood event" according to the University of Wisconsin's Space Science and Engineering Center.
How do you plan for that? You really don't.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Tropical storms have been less active the last dozen years. Perhaps we are returning to a normal tropical storm cycle.
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"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
IMPress Polly (09-06-2017)
Peter wrote:
Tropical storms have been less active the last dozen years. Perhaps we are returning to a normal tropical storm cycle.You know who we should ask about things like this? @Chloe. She's our resident expert on seemingly all things related to the environment. Although I really doubt that global warming is not a factor here, she'd probably know the answer to that more definitively than the rest of us would.Green Arrow wrote:
The worst hurricanes generally hit between August and October. This year for some reason ALL the hurricanes are opting to hit between August and October. So far, NOAA's prediction of a bigger than average season looks true.
EDIT: I have been ordered to post a link to the New York Times article I referenced in the OP, so here it is. Sorry, I just got lazy and didn't know it was against the rules not to include a link to everything you reference.
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