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    Nazism And Communism: Evil Twins?

    This is an interesting essay by Alain De Benoist and touches on a topic I often see debated online. I pasted an excerpt be low but it's fairly short and worth reading.

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    Julliard wonders: “In what sense are criminals appealing to ‘good’ less condemnablethan criminals appealing to ‘evil’?”
    22 The question is pertinent, butpoorly formulated. Nazism never “appealed to evil” any more than communismdid. It made use of ideas that one can deservedly find false, and therefore evil,which is completely different. But it is not as if the evaluation one has of oneselfcorresponded to that of other. Otherwise, one could claim that communism alsoappealed not to the good, but to evil, in proportion to the horror these ideas cansuggest. The rationale of opposing the Nazi “doctrine of hate” to the communist“ideal of human emancipation” is thus debatable. It would amount to contraposinga definition of communism by its supporters to a definition of Nazism by itsopponents. Under these conditions, it is not difficult to make the first appear asgood as the latter evil. From an artificial asymmetry, one draws a conclusion no
    less artificial. This is a non sequitur.


    Nazism did not pretend to promise people any less “happiness” than communism.It did not promise any less a “radiant” outlook to its supporters. To say theopposite, as David Lindenberg does, when he writes that the Nazis “gained manysupporters because of its penchant for murder,”
    23 makes its appeal to the massesinexplicable. To say that a political system could generate enthusiasm by presentingitself openly as advocating a “doctrine of hate” is tantamount to saying that its
    supporters were sick, mad, criminals, or perverts. Then one would have to explain
    how an entire population could go crazy. If it is by nature, what does this say about
    human nature? If it is by accident, how does it come about — and how can it end?

    http://www.alaindebenoist.com/pdf/evil_twins.pdf
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


    ~Alain de Benoist


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    Does it ever end? What about progressivism today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Does it ever end? What about progressivism today?
    Not sure what you mean. I don't think it's helpful to out progressvism, at least not as it manifests itself in our society, on par with Nazism or communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Not sure what you mean. I don't think it's helpful to out progressvism, at least not as it manifests itself in our society, on par with Nazism or communism.

    The only reason I brought it up was due to the head of the 3rd largest union in this country. Which the head of that Union and President says they are under a flag of progressivism but that they are really communist with their ideaology. That he should know. He was also the one to say that if the Comminists had 50 million people in our Country. They would take over the Country. He was being interviewed by Medved the other Night. Before the Start up of the Convention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Not sure what you mean. I don't think it's helpful to out progressvism, at least not as it manifests itself in our society, on par with Nazism or communism.

    Really??? You don't think most of the progressives today aren't commie's?

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    There are certainly bona fide communists in the US. No doubt about that but I don't think we should lump unions in with 20th Century communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie Locks View Post
    Really??? You don't think most of the progressives today aren't commie's?
    I thin some are but not your average do gooder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    There are certainly bona fide communists in the US. No doubt about that but I don't think we should lump unions in with 20th Century communism.
    Yeah but this guy didnt say all unions. He says they are the 3rd largest Union in the Country. Plus he was the President of it. I was trying to find the name but I can't find the broadcast of that show since the convention started. He also said the ideas of todays progressives was really Communism. Medved pointed out some of the socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah but this guy didnt say all unions. He says they are the 3rd largest Union in the Country. Plus he was the President of it. I was trying to find the name but I can't find the broadcast of that show since the convention started. He also said the ideas of todays progressives was really Communism. Medved pointed out some of the socialism.
    Find the name of the union. I'd be happy to take a look.
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    Yeah i am trying.....got medved site up looking for it. Or even the guys name. Oh wait. Brb.
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