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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    Bull. Israel has no rights to Palestine. The 1967 settlement saw to that. Except that Israel took no notice of it.

    Even though the US voted "no", Obama is on record as upholding that settlement.



    So does the overwhelming opinion of most of the planet. The Israelis can $#@! all they like.
    Go back to my posts above. I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Go back to my posts above. I agree.
    I thought I detected muddlement.
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    I guess the "you thought part" caused the cascading error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I guess the "you thought part" caused the cascading error.
    It was the Orcs?
    Come sit down beside me I said to myself
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    possibly....

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    Well, I must say I am surprised. I always took our current government for a total US toady.

    New Zealand has voted in favour of a United Nations resolution recognising a state of Palestine.The UN General Assembly today overwhelmingly voted to grant Palestinians "non-member state" UN observer status.
    The resolution upgrading the Palestinians' status to a nonmember observer state at the United Nations was approved by the 193-member world body today by a vote of 138-9 with 41 abstentions.
    Foreign Affairs Minister McCully confirmed the decision just hours before the historic vote.
    New Zealand has been grappling with the implications of voting in favour of a resolution which the United States and Israel strongly oppose.
    Some countries, including Australia and Britain, plan to abstain but it is expected to pass with strong support from other nations.
    McCully said a UN resolution is "a poor substitute for direct negotiations between the two parties".
    But voting in favour of the resolution reflects the long-standing policy of the New Zealand Government.
    In a statement, McCully said: "New Zealand is a long-standing supporter of the two state solution. We believe that Israel and a Palestinian state should exist side by side, each respecting the other's right to peace. And we believe that they should arrive at that conclusion through direct talks.
    Apparently principle overcame "grappling with the implications" of voting against the US.
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    A historical reconnection of a non-nation. I suspect we will see more of it now. The international community will be in a flutter. Kurds and Catalonians next.

    This is the bail out from economic insanity of government debt spending.

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    Don't forget the Walloons and Scots.
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    The Jews are distraught. Every Jewish commentator faced with a camera goes into volcanic meltdown. It is hard to believe that such psychotic behaviour manifests itself so wildly in public.

    One guy, on RT's Cross Talk, was apoplectic with rage. He was reduced to screaming "Lies! lies! lies!" when confronted with an Israel critic (Finkelstein was his name) who calmly and analytically pulled Israel's crimes apart.

    But when I turned to CNN, I suddenly became hopeful that not all Jews were as determined as him to perpetuate the Israeli fascism that has made them a pariah state in the eyes of most of the world.

    What I saw was a measured, conciliatory argument by Ehud Olmert, prime minister of Israel in 2008. He was in favour of the Palestinian bid before the UN. And he came as close as any other prime minister to forging an agreement with the Palestinians in negotiation with Abbas.

    It is clear that Israel will be doomed unless liberal and moderate Israelis supplant Netanyahu's fascist government. But it is also clear that that is a possibility. Olmert hinted that he might stand again for the top job.

    But time is running out. The Orthodox wallbangers are getting more and more support from more and more Jews who have settled on more and more confiscated Palestinian land. They will see Netanyahu as their best bet for ensuring they keep it. And they will vote for him.

    Israel's future is in the hands of seculars and moderates.

    Just like the US.
    Last edited by Awryly; 11-30-2012 at 09:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    The Jews are distraught. Every Jewish commentator faced with a camera goes into volcanic meltdown. It is hard to believe that such psychotic behaviour manifests itself so wildly in public.

    One guy, on RT's Cross Talk, was apoplectic with rage. He was reduced to screaming "Lies! lies! lies!" when confronted with an Israel critic (Finkelstein was his name) who calmly and analytically pulled Israel's crimes apart.

    But when I turned to CNN, I suddenly became hopeful that not all Jews were as determined as him to perpetuate the Israeli fascism that has made them a pariah state in the eyes of most of the world.

    What I saw was a measured, conciliatory argument by Ehud Olmert, prime minister of Israel in 2008. He was in favour of the Palestinian bid before the UN. And he came as close as any other prime minister to forging an agreement with the Palestinians in negotiation with Abbas.

    It is clear that Israel will be doomed unless liberal and moderate Israelis supplant Netanyahu's fascist government. But it is also clear that that is a possibility. Olmert hinted that he might stand again for the top job.

    But time is running out. The Orthodox wallbangers are getting more and more support from more and more Jews who have settled on more and more confiscated Palestinian land. They will see Netanyahu as their best bet for ensuring they keep it. And they will vote for him.

    Israel's future is in the hands of seculars and moderates.

    Just like the US.
    Psychotic, apoplectic, and just plain silly describe your post. Israel's fascist government? Really?
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