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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Okay, Chris, the definitions. It does seem, though, that people may not differentiate between the two, whether it be 'the weather changes' and 'climate change'. So, that may be the difference. As to the other, how do you think the communists stayed in power inside of their regimes? "State capitalism" is known terminology:


    examples:

    "There is a sense in which every society is capitalist. The Soviet Union was capitalist, but it was state capitalism. Latin American societies in the past have been capitalist, but it has been oligarchic capitalism."




    The large numbers of people who have become enveloped inside of weather changes of such a velocity and type of 'out of the dark' events that are happening to the point of devastation to a magnitude that is costing lives, property and so much wealth lost...whether a "trend" or not, the storm surges that are happening, where large areas, as reported, are being put under water...something very significant is happening. A Christian pastor brought up Daniel, chapter 12, "Michael", for the Florida hurricane.


    I use climate change because it keeps changing from global warming to global cooling. But, sure, climate too can change, based on long-term trends in weather change.



    China is an example of state capitalism. The USSR, not, it was socialist/communist. Not sure what that has to do with hurricanes.



    That last paragraph I can't decipher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I use climate change because it keeps changing from global warming to global cooling. But, sure, climate too can change, based on long-term trends in weather change.



    China is an example of state capitalism. The USSR, not, it was socialist/communist. Not sure what that has to do with hurricanes.



    That last paragraph I can't decipher.
    "State capitalism" was the Soviet Union, that is known inside of right-wing circles. Communism needs capital to operate, Chris, just as they did, it still does. As for the significance of it, whether it be private or 'public' capital, one can see the diminishing that has occurred while mankind has gone the way of a materialistic society, that could be regarded as social-ism. Regarding the last paragraph, it states the level of these events are not just storms, they are more as if the whole of the grounds are shifting. But if one is an atheist, they may not be a believer, so, respectfully, there may be no point to a discussion, except that a pastor believes that Daniel chapter 12 could describe the very day the world is in. Is it another sign that man should change the direction he is headed in? Just a question. Thank you, Chris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    "State capitalism" was the Soviet Union, that is known inside of right-wing circles. Communism needs capital to operate, Chris, just as they did, it still does. As for the significance of it, whether it be private or 'public' capital, one can see the diminishing that has occurred while mankind has gone the way of a materialistic society, that could be regarded as social-ism. Regarding the last paragraph, it states the level of these events are not just storms, they are more as if the whole of the grounds are shifting. But if one is an atheist, they may not be a believer, so, respectfully, there may be no point to a discussion, except that a pastor believes that Daniel chapter 12 could describe the very day the world is in. Is it another sign that man should change the direction he is headed in? Just a question. Thank you, Chris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
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    Hurricanes are changes in weather, not climate.
    I only see 18 years of Atlantic hurricanes.

    Hurricanes are certainly affected by changes in climate. A warmer climate is associated with warmer sea surface temperatures and a warmer atmosphere. Hurricanes are not becoming
    more frequent and are not expected to. That is not a prediction of climate science. The frequency of category 4 and category 5 hurricanes have been increasing in recent decades and
    that trend is expected to continue - I am considering both Atlantic hurricanes and typhoons in the Pacific. The total storm energy per year from 1896 to 2016 does not show any clear
    trend - big hurricanes and typhoons cool the oceans and this tends to reduce the strength of smaller hurricanes and also the likelihood of hurricanes to form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalmike View Post
    I only see 18 years of Atlantic hurricanes.

    Hurricanes are certainly affected by changes in climate. A warmer climate is associated with warmer sea surface temperatures and a warmer atmosphere. Hurricanes are not becoming
    more frequent and are not expected to. That is not a prediction of climate science. The frequency of category 4 and category 5 hurricanes have been increasing in recent decades and
    that trend is expected to continue - I am considering both Atlantic hurricanes and typhoons in the Pacific. The total storm energy per year from 1896 to 2016 does not show any clear
    trend - big hurricanes and typhoons cool the oceans and this tends to reduce the strength of smaller hurricanes and also the likelihood of hurricanes to form.

    You have to follow the link:



    No doubt hurricanes are affected by changes in climate.

    The frequency has not been increasing just as "The total storm energy per year from 1896 to 2016 does not show any clear trend." See the chart and it's data. Read through the thread for much worse hurricanes in the past.
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    I have a question, seeing as how we're told that the warming seas cause stronger hurricanes, then why did Hurricane Florence, a cat 4 at that time, lose intensity as it crossed the Gulf Stream before land fall ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    "State capitalism" was the Soviet Union, that is known inside of right-wing circles. Communism needs capital to operate, Chris, just as they did, it still does. As for the significance of it, whether it be private or 'public' capital, one can see the diminishing that has occurred while mankind has gone the way of a materialistic society, that could be regarded as social-ism. Regarding the last paragraph, it states the level of these events are not just storms, they are more as if the whole of the grounds are shifting. But if one is an atheist, they may not be a believer, so, respectfully, there may be no point to a discussion, except that a pastor believes that Daniel chapter 12 could describe the very day the world is in. Is it another sign that man should change the direction he is headed in? Just a question. Thank you, Chris.
    Chris: Lost me.
    Do you mean that you still do not understand how the Soviet Union was run as an operation? Do you mean you don't know there were certain capitalists who funded/still fund communism? The deeper it goes you fail to understand. Have you ever studied political systems? So, if you're lost, there are the means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    I have a question, seeing as how we're told that the warming seas cause stronger hurricanes, then why did Hurricane Florence, a cat 4 at that time, lose intensity as it crossed the Gulf Stream before land fall ??
    Because the job was done. Who do you think is the director of those same winds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Do you mean that you still do not understand how the Soviet Union was run as an operation? Do you mean you don't know there were certain capitalists who funded/still fund communism? The deeper it goes you fail to understand. Have you ever studied political systems? So, if you're lost, there are the means.
    No, I mean I don't understand you and your words. Sorry.
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