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    Why I don't like Sanders plans

    Sen. Sanders is good hearted and well intentioned but really unrealistic. He advocates for free college for all and forgiveness of student loans but the cost of that would be horrendous. Now, it's Medicare for all, again unrealistic. He got lot's of support from the young on his proposals but I believe he knew he couldn't deliver if he had won. We need realistic approaches to health care including some laws on physicians fees.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Sen. Sanders is good hearted and well intentioned but really unrealistic. He advocates for free college for all and forgiveness of student loans but the cost of that would be horrendous. Now, it's Medicare for all, again unrealistic. He got lot's of support from the young on his proposals but I believe he knew he couldn't deliver if he had won. We need realistic approaches to health care including some laws on physicians fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Sen. Sanders is good hearted and well intentioned but really unrealistic. He advocates for free college for all and forgiveness of student loans but the cost of that would be horrendous. Now, it's Medicare for all, again unrealistic. He got lot's of support from the young on his proposals but I believe he knew he couldn't deliver if he had won. We need realistic approaches to health care including some laws on physicians fees.
    Marxists are deceivers. There is nothing good about deceivers. In my opinion, Sanders is an evil man. He is not simply wrong.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Marxists are deceivers. There is nothing good about deceivers. In my opinion, Sanders is an evil man. He is not simply wrong.
    In your opinion EVERYONE is evil.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    In your opinion EVERYONE is evil.
    No. Marxists, Socialists, Progressives, in short, all authoritarian statists are evil. The followers are dupes.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    No. Marxists, Socialists, Progressives, in short, all authoritarian statists are evil. The followers are dupes.
    Thanks for showing up...THREADKILLER!
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Marxists, Socialists, Progressives, in short, all authoritarian statists are evil. The followers are dupes.
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    Thanks for showing up...THREADKILLER!
    Do you Marxists need a safe space?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Yeah, Sanders is a bit extreme. If I were to bet though, many of his ideas may come to fruition. For better or worse.
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    The middle class who pay for most of everything, couldnt afford socialized medicine and socialized college. Sanders knows those ideas wont float but hes playing to the progressive left which is his only supporters.

    What I find peculiar is that no one ever talks about Socialized Law, where everyone gets a lawyer for free. I mean why not just do it all, everyone is entitled to everything free.

    The left has to grasp this fact, todays america isnt the 1970s america. Where the middleclass all worked and had decent paying jobs and paid the lionshare of taxs. Todays america has large numbers of middleclass out of work and needing subistence themselves, you have many other middleclass working for far less and you have millions of working poor, who pay hardly nothing or nothing in taxs and some that get food stamps on top of that and its going to all get worse not better.

    If you read you would know that most college kids are graduating and going to live with mommy daddy.
    You have all these antifa morons being bred in colleges by ultra liberal $#@! professors who have them believing they can get it all for free all their lives. Seriously WTF?? when does this end.

    We were taught if you didnt work you were a bum and deserved skidrow eating out of a garbage can. Today if you dont work everyone says awwww poorbaby we need to give them alot of free stuff.

    Working for a low wage was called " A half a loaf is better than none till you find something better" that meant work your way up and achieve better pay.

    The saddest part of all this is while the Progressive Left rages endlessly everyone is entitled to everything for free, the Rich corporate interests and employers have americans working much longer hours for less than ever before. You have murder rates climbing and the left says GIVE IT TO THEM FOR FREE, corporations moving out of the country GIVE IT TO THEM FOR FREE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Sen. Sanders is good hearted and well intentioned but really unrealistic. He advocates for free college for all and forgiveness of student loans but the cost of that would be horrendous. Now, it's Medicare for all, again unrealistic. He got lot's of support from the young on his proposals but I believe he knew he couldn't deliver if he had won. We need realistic approaches to health care including some laws on physicians fees.
    The University of California system - the largest in the country - was tuition-free until 1985. Additionally, the countries with the best education in the world are all tuition-free. Tennessee experimented with a tuition-free model to great success, with President Obama touting it as an example of what this country needs, and now New York is going tuition-free.

    Medicare-for-all works in most of the world's developed nations and they tend to have better life expectancies than do we.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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