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Thread: Federal Court rules in favor of breastfeeding cop who sued City of Tuscaloosa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Court got this one right. Misanthropes and misogynists can get bent.
    It is a bad law. It was a bad decision.

    I keep waiting for you to get something right. Have you got an ETA on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Because most women are smart enough to do a job suited for them. Those fields are male dominated for a good reason.

    Just like social workers and shrinks are female dominated.

    So who would you prefer to attempt your rescue? Man or woman?

    Sent from my evil cell phone.
    Yes, women are very smart to do jobs for which they are suited and women firefighters are obviously suited for that job, should they qualify.

    I'm for whoever shows up to do the job. Obviously they are qualified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    It is a bad law. It was a bad decision.

    I keep waiting for you to get something right. Have you got an ETA on that?
    Ooh, that's original.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    I need to see her breasts to decide whether or not I agree with the verdict.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I stood behind it and explained it at a level a 4th grader could understand. If you couldn't figure it out, that is on you.
    You immediately decided to toss out the "discrimination" card. There was nothing discriminatory in anything I said. I can explain this stuff to you, but I can't make you respond like an adult. You have to do that yourself.
    Here, let me give you a chance to shine. Tell me what was discriminatory in my stated position. Don't just claim discrimination, show me where and what it is.
    I asked you a series of questions, and you refused to answer the last of them:

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    She should have resigned when she got pregnant instead of becoming a burden on her department.
    Does that go for all jobs that women hold?
    Originally Posted by Cletus
    It depends on the burden she places on her employer. If the employer is fine with her taking x amount of time off and not replacing her and understanding that a newborn is going to have certain requirements that will affect work performance, that is great.
    What is not great is an employer being forced by law to accept that.


    So women should put their job before having children? Or quit to have children and stay home once they are pregnant or having delivered?

    Should employers be permitted not to hire women unless they commit to not getting pregnant?


    Originally Posted by Cletus
    That is between them and their employer. If he wants them back and is willing to work around their schedule, more power to them. However, if he is not willing to do so, he shouldn't be required to do so.


    If that is a something the employer wants as a condition of employment, he should be able to make it one. If the woman doesn't like it, she can look for a different job and a different employer.

    Since when did people start believing they have a RIGHT to a particular job?



    What jobs?

    The employer starts a business for HIS benefit. If the employee is of no benefit to him, he shouldn't have to retain her or him if a male creates a similar situation.


    Ok. Well. I'm glad the law doesn't permit such discrimination as you have described. A person, man or woman, shouldn't have to sign away their right to be a parent in order to work and the law agrees. Men do take paternity leave and they adopt children and take time off for that a as well, in case you're wondering why I included men in that sentence.

    I guess a business person could just not hire women? Would that be easier? (Although I do note in your version, only men start businesses.)

    How do you feel about dads who take days off to take care of sick kids?
    You did not answer those last questions and instead suggested I was being childish for asking them. I'm asking you to explain, does your exclusion of parental responsibilities extend to men? Men will want paternity leave for newborns or when they take home their adopted child. They also require time off to care for sick kids. Should men have to commit to not taking paternity leave or as a condition of accepting job as you said earlier?

    There is nothing childish about asking these questions to see where you stand on men in the workplace. If you have different standards for men as it relates to being a parent than women, that's discriminatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    You dont read stories about it because they dont print them, I will share one with you.
    Philadelphia Fire Dept in the early 70s had to hire X amount of female fire fighters. For decades PFD taped training sessions of firefighters during certain aspects of training. One of the big parts of training back then was being able to carry and stand up a 40' ladder. Time and time again the women could not do it. Men in the past that couldnt do it were fired out of the academy. It was always a must do to pass. The FD was told to get rid of the tapes and stop taping training, they were told they could not fire the females.

    Because you dont read it doesnt make it so.
    Please link such stories?

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    So all this proves is that women aren't fit to serve in any and all roles.

    Gotcha, we already knew that though, PC and prograsshats are just starting to catch up.

    I hope that when I need a cop in an emergency they aren't taking breaks to feed the kid.

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    btw, she's kind of cute, maybe I just need handcuffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Ooh, that's original.
    It is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole View Post
    I asked you a series of questions, and you refused to answer the last of them:
    If I didn't answer it is because I either overlooked it or decided it wasn't worth my time.

    You did not answer those last questions and instead suggested I was being childish for asking them. I'm asking you to explain, does your exclusion of parental responsibilities extend to men? Men will want paternity leave for newborns or when they take home their adopted child. They also require time off to care for sick kids. Should men have to commit to not taking paternity leave or as a condition of accepting job as you said earlier?
    If the employer wants that as a condition of employment, yes.

    There is nothing childish about asking these questions to see where you stand on men in the workplace. If you have different standards for men as it relates to being a parent than women, that's discriminatory.
    You made the accusation before you even knew my position. That's childish.

    The issue is not about men and women. The issue is about what the employer thinks best serves his needs. Male, female... it doesn't matter one whit.
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