MisterVeritis (09-19-2017)
"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
I need to see her breasts to decide whether or not I agree with the verdict.
"An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
across a period of many years if he is
to have a chance of succeeding"
~RZ67~
I asked you a series of questions, and you refused to answer the last of them:
So women should put their job before having children? Or quit to have children and stay home once they are pregnant or having delivered?Originally Posted by Cletus
It depends on the burden she places on her employer. If the employer is fine with her taking x amount of time off and not replacing her and understanding that a newborn is going to have certain requirements that will affect work performance, that is great.
What is not great is an employer being forced by law to accept that.
Should employers be permitted not to hire women unless they commit to not getting pregnant?You did not answer those last questions and instead suggested I was being childish for asking them. I'm asking you to explain, does your exclusion of parental responsibilities extend to men? Men will want paternity leave for newborns or when they take home their adopted child. They also require time off to care for sick kids. Should men have to commit to not taking paternity leave or as a condition of accepting job as you said earlier?
Ok. Well. I'm glad the law doesn't permit such discrimination as you have described. A person, man or woman, shouldn't have to sign away their right to be a parent in order to work and the law agrees. Men do take paternity leave and they adopt children and take time off for that a as well, in case you're wondering why I included men in that sentence.Originally Posted by Cletus
That is between them and their employer. If he wants them back and is willing to work around their schedule, more power to them. However, if he is not willing to do so, he shouldn't be required to do so.
If that is a something the employer wants as a condition of employment, he should be able to make it one. If the woman doesn't like it, she can look for a different job and a different employer.
Since when did people start believing they have a RIGHT to a particular job?
What jobs?
The employer starts a business for HIS benefit. If the employee is of no benefit to him, he shouldn't have to retain her or him if a male creates a similar situation.
I guess a business person could just not hire women? Would that be easier? (Although I do note in your version, only men start businesses.)
How do you feel about dads who take days off to take care of sick kids?
There is nothing childish about asking these questions to see where you stand on men in the workplace. If you have different standards for men as it relates to being a parent than women, that's discriminatory.
So all this proves is that women aren't fit to serve in any and all roles.
Gotcha, we already knew that though, PC and prograsshats are just starting to catch up.
I hope that when I need a cop in an emergency they aren't taking breaks to feed the kid.
btw, she's kind of cute, maybe I just need handcuffed.
If I didn't answer it is because I either overlooked it or decided it wasn't worth my time.
If the employer wants that as a condition of employment, yes.You did not answer those last questions and instead suggested I was being childish for asking them. I'm asking you to explain, does your exclusion of parental responsibilities extend to men? Men will want paternity leave for newborns or when they take home their adopted child. They also require time off to care for sick kids. Should men have to commit to not taking paternity leave or as a condition of accepting job as you said earlier?
You made the accusation before you even knew my position. That's childish.There is nothing childish about asking these questions to see where you stand on men in the workplace. If you have different standards for men as it relates to being a parent than women, that's discriminatory.
The issue is not about men and women. The issue is about what the employer thinks best serves his needs. Male, female... it doesn't matter one whit.
“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater