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    Question Medical Professionals Who Refuse Care to Patients

    Mrs Zero has a coworker (nurse) who recently refused to care for a patient due to his (the patient's) medical condition. The nurse lost her job according to state and federal laws.

    Should those charged with the care of the infirm be allowed to refuse to care for patients based upon their personal (not just religious) beliefs?
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    Its a job of course you have the right to refuse, you just have to accept the consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Its a job of course you have the right to refuse, you just have to accept the consequences.
    Why would they enter a career when they aren't willing to do a job?
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    We don't know enough of her story. Was she faced with caring for two patients, one who had no chance to live even with her help, the other a chance if helped? We don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Why would they enter a career when they aren't willing to do a job?
    Sounds like they werent willing to do a specific aspect of the job, refusing to deal with one patient isnt being unwilling to do the job as a whole, its not being willing to deal with that one person. Like I said the nurse has to take the consequences for their decision to refuse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Mrs Zero has a coworker (nurse) who recently refused to care for a patient due to his (the patient's) medical condition. The nurse lost her job according to state and federal laws.

    Should those charged with the care of the infirm be allowed to refuse to care for patients based upon their personal (not just religious) beliefs?
    Yes. Unless contracted to do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Mrs Zero has a coworker (nurse) who recently refused to care for a patient due to his (the patient's) medical condition. The nurse lost her job according to state and federal laws.
    Should those charged with the care of the infirm be allowed to refuse to care for patients based upon their personal (not just religious) beliefs?
    The answer of course is yes. But if she/he refuses then she/he must accept the consequences of doing so.

    In my thirty years' experience, we respect the wishes of a nurse to NOT care for a certain patient, but are not bound by it.

    For example, if a nurse is recovering from chemotherapy, we respect that maybe she doesn't need to be giving care to a patient with excessive infections. Some pregnant nurses don't want to care for a patient with shingles. Some patients have been hostile to our male nurses, thinking them homosexual. Some patients are hostile to young nurses, thinking they can be bullied because they are young. So, there are sometimes reasons why a nurse prefers not to care for a particular patient, and we respect that. But they can't refuse without repercussions.

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    What Chris and Common said, the case in the OP is too vague.

    Within EMTALA regs, for routine and non-urgent care, patients can and routinely are turned away.

    Happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    What Chris and Common said, the case in the OP is too vague.

    Within EMTALA regs, for routine and non-urgent care, patients can and routinely are turned away.

    Happens all the time.

    Hell, the OP was vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Mrs Zero has a coworker (nurse) who recently refused to care for a patient due to his (the patient's) medical condition. The nurse lost her job according to state and federal laws.

    Should those charged with the care of the infirm be allowed to refuse to care for patients based upon their personal (not just religious) beliefs?
    I always thought that nurses take some sort of Hippocratic oath to help those in need (medically). I know that doctors and EMT's do in my state.
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