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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    What's it really matter that something is a social construct? As such, it's embedded in the culture and learned growing up.
    It doesn't. It only matters when they try hijack something into a social construct so they can argue it doesn't really matter.... Because it's a social construct - something that can change with prevailing opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil'sAdvocate View Post
    Problem is there's no real distinction between "nationalism" and "globalism", as they're both just arbitrarily defined constructs, some could argue that the United States itself is an example of "globalism" and that states should be individually sovereign rather than legislated from DC.
    Nationalism v globalism is a real topic. It is really impossible for an intelligent argument to suggest otherwise.

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    As a white person, I could care less about being a minority if that's what she claims. I don't look at people based on race, instead look at them as fellow human beings. As for culture, my background is mostly Norwegian but I don't celebrate nor hold dear to me any customs of Norway, instead I'm an American whose culture is based on a huge melting pot of people from all over the world. I suspect that within the next 50 years, due to intermarriage many Americans will be a mixture of many ethnic cultures and race. Either way we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    As a white person, I could care less about being a minority if that's what she claims. I don't look at people based on race, instead look at them as fellow human beings. As for culture, my background is mostly Norwegian but I don't celebrate nor hold dear to me any customs of Norway, instead I'm an American whose culture is based on a huge melting pot of people from all over the world. I suspect that within the next 50 years, due to intermarriage many Americans will be a mixture of many ethnic cultures and race. Either way we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    As a white person, I could care less about being a minority if that's what she claims. I don't look at people based on race, instead look at them as fellow human beings. As for culture, my background is mostly Norwegian but I don't celebrate nor hold dear to me any customs of Norway, instead I'm an American whose culture is based on a huge melting pot of people from all over the world. I suspect that within the next 50 years, due to intermarriage many Americans will be a mixture of many ethnic cultures and race. Either way we shall see.
    Same here. In fact I live in an area where I am the minority. I also lived in Japan for six years and stood out like a sore thumb. It really doesn't matter to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Nationalism v globalism is a real topic. It is really impossible for an intelligent argument to suggest otherwise.

    Number one dumbest comment of the year, I think. And with serious competition, I might add.

    The old constructs argument. Everything is a construct so it's not real, culture's not real, society not, and doesn't matter. Thus spake the materialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Nationalism v globalism is a real topic. It is really impossible for an intelligent argument to suggest otherwise.

    Number one dumbest comment of the year, I think. And with serious competition, I might add.
    It's a construct because the "group" one chooses to identify with is a voluntary choice, not something objective.

    Most Irish people don't identify as the same as British, though a white nationalist who wants an "all-white nation" would view all "whites" as belonging to the same group.

    So if the formation of the EU is viewed as heading toward "globalism", one could also view the United States as "globalist" and believe that all states should be sovereign nations.

    I think that voluntary globalization is mostly inevitable, and a nation which thinks it can completely "isolate" itself from the rest of the world and remain in existence ad infinitum is on the wrong side of history, because historically speaking, nations die and cultures change naturally.

    Forced globalization via big governmental policies is a different issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The old constructs argument. Everything is a construct so it's not real, culture's not real, society not, and doesn't matter.
    It's relative; white nationalists view all "whites" as one giant collective, but most Scottish would not view themselves as the "same" as British, most Japanese would not view themselves as the "same" as Chinese. Whether they choose to identify as separate cultures, or as one homogeneous "race" is their voluntary choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil'sAdvocate View Post
    It's relative; white nationalists view all "whites" as one giant collective, but most Scottish would not view themselves as the "same" as British, most Japanese would not view themselves as the "same" as Chinese. Whether they choose to identify as separate cultures, or as one homogeneous "race" is their voluntary choice.
    You're starting to remind me of someone else who quotes people but never addresses what they quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    You're starting to remind me of someone else who quotes people but never addresses what they quote.
    Society, culture, race, have no inherent existence, they're merely relative mental constructs and only have meaning if a person voluntarily identifies with it; most people do not identify as "white", they are more likely to identify with their nation or ethnic group (e.x. Irish).

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