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    A Question For The History Buffs

    A poster, in another thread, reminded me of a question I've wondered from time to time.

    Why were the indigenous americans many thousands of years behind (Stone Age) the rest of the world's people's ??
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    As a guess I would say disconnection from other cultures had something to do with it.

    Most advanced cultures became advanced due to the sharing of technology either through trade, warfare or assimilation of some sort.

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    I'll just throw this out there, that maybe that's what they preferred, a life less complicated by technology, politics, economics. There have always been those who resisted the encroachment of the state. They had a rich, well-ordered life of hunting, gathering, some agriculture, trade, centered around the family or tribe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    As a guess I would say disconnection from other cultures had something to do with it.

    Most advanced cultures became advanced due to the sharing of technology either through trade, warfare or assimilation of some sort.
    The Aztecs were certainly more advanced than the Algonquins and they were cut off from the rest of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    The Aztecs were certainly more advanced than the Algonquins and they were cut off from the rest of the world.
    The Aztecs were a pretty strong empire that followed the process of warfare/assimilation Common Sense mentioned. They also weren't nearly advanced as Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    As a guess I would say disconnection from other cultures had something to do with it.

    Most advanced cultures became advanced due to the sharing of technology either through trade, warfare or assimilation of some sort.
    I just can't grasp the isolation theory. There was plenty of warfare and trade between the various cultures. The Mayan, Inca and Aztec expanded their empires via war and assimilation of cultures. Their mathmatics was advanced but no wheel, no metallurgy, short of the soft ores, farming was rudimentary in north america and rather advanced in the south, no large boat/ship building beyond advanced canoes. The north american indigenous people's were barely beyond hunter gathers when the Europeans arrived. Isolationism just doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I'll just throw this out there, that maybe that's what they preferred, a life less complicated by technology, politics, economics. There have always been those who resisted the encroachment of the state. They had a rich, well-ordered life of hunting, gathering, some agriculture, trade, centered around the family or tribe.
    I tend to agree here. I reject the terms because of what they imply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    I just can't grasp the isolation theory. There was plenty of warfare and trade between the various cultures. The Mayan, Inca and Aztec expanded their empires via war and assimilation of cultures. Their mathmatics was advanced but no wheel, no metallurgy, short of the soft ores, farming was rudimentary in north america and rather advanced in the south, no large boat/ship building beyond advanced canoes. The north american indigenous people's were barely beyond hunter gathers when the Europeans arrived. Isolationism just doesn't make sense.
    I agree. It really doesn't BUT there are material factors to consider. No large animals like horses, for example, which gives less incentive for an invention like the wheel. That said, the lack of writing is hard to explain.
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    The Algonquins also assimilated other tribes, traded with other tribes and went to war with other tribes yet were nowhere near as advanced as the Aztecs.

    The political system of the Algonquins would have been considered communistic by today's standards

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    The Algonquins also assimilated other tribes, traded with other tribes and went to war with other tribes yet were nowhere near as advanced as the Aztecs.

    The political system of the Algonquins would have been considered communistic by today's standards
    Such anachronisms have a long history. In the late 19th and early 20th Century the Inca were also either admired or vilified as communists.
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