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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    That's the danger of a niched version of historical accountl like a womens history course, you get a very filtered and incomplete account of the facts.

    Indoctrinating women to be feminists fosters ignorance IMO when they are spoon fed only certain things and not the entire story.
    More importantly, IMO, you get a grossly distorted version of events. These tidbits are interesting but 1) they are not critical and 2) their absence from textbooks is not the result of a dislike for women.

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    Captain Obvious wrote:
    That's the danger of a niched version of historical accountl like a womens history course, you get a very filtered and incomplete account of the facts.
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    More importantly, IMO, you get a grossly distorted version of events. These tidbits are interesting but 1) they are not critical and 2) their absence from textbooks is not the result of a dislike for women.
    You make it out to be that those who study women's history in college or high school have taken no other history classes before.

    My point is that, in an ideal world, our standard history texts would read something like A People's History of the United States. But we don't live in that ideal world, do we? Therefore, women's history courses are needed.

    The people here who are promoting a "filtered" and "distorted" view of human history are the ones who insist that only their group's stories be told; that only their group's past be remembered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    You make it out to be that those who study women's history in college or high school have taken no other history classes before.

    My point is that, in an ideal world, our standard history texts would read something like A People's History of the United States. But we don't live in that ideal world, do we? Therefore, women's history courses are needed.

    The people here who are promoting a "filtered" and "distorted" view of human history are the ones who insist that only their group's stories be told; that only their group's past be remembered.
    I think Cap's and D's point is singularly focused studies can distort the bigger picture. And I would agree especially when the focus is identitarian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    You make it out to be that those who study women's history in college or high school have taken no other history classes before.

    My point is that, in an ideal world, our standard history texts would read something like A People's History of the United States. But we don't live in that ideal world, do we? Therefore, women's history courses are needed.

    The people here who are promoting a "filtered" and "distorted" view of human history are the ones who insist that only their group's stories be told; that only their group's past be remembered.
    Polly, you insisted that women were not allowed to speak to each other in public. Did you get that from one of your "history" courses?

    No, they wouldn't. In an ideal world history texts would not be so abashedly ideological. That you call this "ideal" says a lot about you.

    The group's story in question is the nation's, Polly.
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