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    Why Should the States Be "United"?

    What real reason - cultural, religious, ancestral, etc. - is there for the American States to remain politically "united" with one another when it is exceedingly clear that they are, in fact, bitterly divided?

    Wouldn't it make more sense for them to separate peacefully instead of staying in a dysfunctional, hateful political marriage that has already resulted in one massively devastating war?
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    I wonder what the Confederate states of America, would be like, today?
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    Power, purely for power. The power to control the people and their lives. Separate, the states could still cooperate in self-defense just as they would in the market.
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    If the federal government were only stripped of the power they have unconstitutionally usurped from the states it wouldn't matter. Any states people could determine what is best for them economically or socially as long as they didn't encroach on the rights of the peoples in other states. The states that dream up ridiculous utopian schemes and social programs along with the high taxes would have to live with any problems created. The smart states would set an example for the others to follow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What real reason - cultural, religious, ancestral, etc. - is there for the American States to remain politically "united" with one another when it is exceedingly clear that they are, in fact, bitterly divided?

    Wouldn't it make more sense for them to separate peacefully instead of staying in a dysfunctional, hateful political marriage that has already resulted in one massively devastating war?
    I don't think the American states are bitterly divided; sure there are extreme elements on both sides that would love to see the US split up but I feel mainstream Americans realize the benefits of staying whole. There is strength in numbers; if we'd split up during the civil war its quite possible that we'd be speaking German today. I believe if things get bad enough in this country, the people--using the mechanism in place--will cause change to happen legally as it should be as our founding fathers did when they wrote up the US Constitution.
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    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What real reason - cultural, religious, ancestral, etc. - is there for the American States to remain politically "united" with one another when it is exceedingly clear that they are, in fact, bitterly divided?

    Wouldn't it make more sense for them to separate peacefully instead of staying in a dysfunctional, hateful political marriage that has already resulted in one massively devastating war?
    Stay united to fund a strong military. Otherwise, let the states run their own business.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
    across a period of many years if he is
    to have a chance of succeeding"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    If the federal government were only stripped of the power they have unconstitutionally usurped from the states it wouldn't matter. Any states people could determine what is best for them economically or socially as long as they didn't encroach on the rights of the peoples in other states. The states that dream up ridiculous utopian schemes and social programs along with the high taxes would have to live with any problems created. The smart states would set an example for the others to follow.
    Bingo. Bring federalism back. The states ought to be sovereign outside of Article 1 sec. 8, US Const.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What real reason - cultural, religious, ancestral, etc. - is there for the American States to remain politically "united" with one another when it is exceedingly clear that they are, in fact, bitterly divided?

    Wouldn't it make more sense for them to separate peacefully instead of staying in a dysfunctional, hateful political marriage that has already resulted in one massively devastating war?
    Not really. We probably should go in a Canadian direction and have provinces and let all the day to day power rest with those governments and the federal government be about defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What real reason - cultural, religious, ancestral, etc. - is there for the American States to remain politically "united" with one another when it is exceedingly clear that they are, in fact, bitterly divided?
    Wouldn't it make more sense for them to separate peacefully instead of staying in a dysfunctional, hateful political marriage that has already resulted in one massively devastating war?
    Because the Constitution made it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Bingo. Bring federalism back. The states ought to be sovereign outside of Article 1 sec. 8, US Const.
    Yet that's not the way it ended up, is it? Are you saying the founding fathers erred?
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