Warming seas could lead to 70 percent increase in hurricane-related financial loss

[NapRover]

Since the last ice age, melting occurs constantly. I don’t think we can do anything to change that, except maybe abstain from nuclear war.

[waltky]

Miami Faces Future of Rising Seas...

Miami Faces Future of Rising Seas
November 21, 2017 — Sue Brogan's street is barely above sea level on a good day. During autumn's "king tides," when the sun and moon align to create the highest tides of the year, Biscayne Bay backs up through storm drains and flows into Brogan's street, in Miami's low-lying Shorecrest neighborhood.

Roads flood. The salt water rusts cars and kills greenery. For now, it's mostly a nuisance several days a year. But Brogan knows it's only going to get worse. "It's more of a warning situation. Where is it going to go from this?" she asks. Climate change is expected to raise sea levels a minimum of three-quarters of a meter by the end of the century, according to the estimates that regional planners use. That puts most of Shorecrest underwater year-round, along with other low-lying waterfront neighborhoods. And higher seas mean increased risk of tidal flooding and storm surges across this hurricane-prone city.

Flood waters rise around signs at the Haulover Marine Center at Haulover Park as Hurricane Irma passes by, Sept. 10, 2017, in North Miami Beach, Florida.

The planners' high-end estimate is two meters of sea level rise. That would submerge most of the glitzy city of Miami Beach, across the bay. And scientists say three to three-and-a-half meters is extreme but plausible. In that scenario, Miami Beach is gone and Miami is an archipelago. Planning for this future is difficult, expensive and often controversial. But the Miami region has little choice. "Sea level rise is an existential threat," said City of Miami Chief Resilience Officer Jane Gilbert. "But it is not an imminent existential threat ... We have time to plan."

Miami Beach leads way

As a barrier island with some of the most expensive real estate in the region, Miami Beach is quite literally on the front lines of climate change. The city has the motivation, and the resources, to take some of the most aggressive action in the region. Residents are paying for roughly half a billion dollars' worth of seawalls, raised streets, sewer pumps and more. "Thankfully, our residents — the folks that are footing the bill for this work — realize that the cost of doing nothing is much greater," said Public Works Director Eric Carpenter.

Tidal flooding in Highland Village, North Miami Beach.

There have been some hiccups. Raising roads put adjacent properties below street level. At least one flood-damage insurance claim has been denied as a result, and residents and businesses are worried there will be more. Miami Beach is working to resolve the dispute. "I think there are inherent risks with being first," Carpenter said. But the city gets credit for moving forward despite the challenges. "It's not working perfectly. But they're at least doing the experimentation," said Zelalem Adefris with the advocacy group Catalyst Miami.

Redesigning Shorecrest

[Kacper]

Miami Faces Future of Rising Seas...

Miami Faces Future of Rising Seas
November 21, 2017 — Sue Brogan's street is barely above sea level on a good day. During autumn's "king tides," when the sun and moon align to create the highest tides of the year, Biscayne Bay backs up through storm drains and flows into Brogan's street, in Miami's low-lying Shorecrest neighborhood.

Nothing can be done to save Miami. It is low land and the soil won't support effective sea walls. Instead of spending billions on a fools errands, we should spend billions to relocate people.

[Cthulhu]

Nothing can be done to save Miami. It is low land and the soil won't support effective sea walls. Instead of spending billions on a fools errands, we should spend billions to relocate people.

You could keep the people in the same place, but the types of building must change to accommodate the weather and hazards of the region.

Traditional housing has utterly failed.

Stop bailing these idiots out as well.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Kacper]

You could keep the people in the same place, but the types of building must change to accommodate the weather and hazards of the region.

Traditional housing has utterly failed.

Stop bailing these idiots out as well.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Well I suppose technically you could put them in houseboats but I am not sure that is really a long-term solution.

[Cthulhu]

Well I suppose technically you could put them in houseboats but I am not sure that is really a long-term solution.

Hardened structures. Concrete based domes seem to endure quite well. As well as the geodesic domes.

Earth sheltered housing also fairs rather well, underground housing too.

There are many alternative housing options that are superior to what they keep rebuilding. You'll have to relocate people for sure, but not all of them.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Kacper]

Hardened structures. Concrete based domes seem to endure quite well. As well as the geodesic domes.

Earth sheltered housing also fairs rather well, underground housing too.

There are many alternative housing options that are superior to what they keep rebuilding. You'll have to relocate people for sure, but not all of them.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

Living in a concrete dome under the surf seems like it would likely aggravate my allergies.

[Cthulhu]

Living in a concrete dome under the surf seems like it would likely aggravate my allergies.

Truthfully those structures aren't that bad. Options for natural lighting are there. People just have to get over living a box. It is inferior housing in practically every way.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

[Kacper]

Truthfully those structures aren't that bad. Options for natural lighting are there. People just have to get over living a box. It is inferior housing in practically every way.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Guess it would be the perfect storm for people with both agoraphobia and claustrophobia

[Orion Rules]

No. From what I see I expect another mini ice age by 2030.

Like what we experienced at the time of our Revolutionary War.

Hot or cold, warmer climate, more CO2, plants breathe out oxygen all life needs, the fish breathe whole molecules, God is at war.

The violations of mankind against natural law have reached compass of epidemic proportions while governments are His waiters.

And so the windows of heaven pour down what might be tallied, 'enter that same house or constellation of who said it's Aquarius'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vklU5_vA-Ng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szsFd8SqYWQ