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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    And if you are unconcious and unable to act on your behalf or in danger of dying if you don't get immediate treatment money has no meaning since you cannot take it with you. I think it's one thing if you are going to the dermatologist or podiatrist and you are not in a life threatening situation but in an emergency situation I think you should be able to get treatment any qualified medical doctor.
    And emergency treatment should be the extent of it. Do you agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    And emergency treatment should be the extent of it. Do you agree?
    As long as it's an emergency and/or not life threatening, absolutely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    And if you are unconcious and unable to act on your behalf or in danger of dying if you don't get immediate treatment money has no meaning since you cannot take it with you. I think it's one thing if you are going to the dermatologist or podiatrist and you are not in a life threatening situation but in an emergency situation I think you should be able to get treatment any qualified medical doctor.
    I think your concerns are covered in the quoted area: "You have the right to choose to purchase the services of others."

    However, I believe if you have a history of not paying for the service of a provider, then that provider should be able to refuse to provide the service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    I think your concerns are covered in the quoted area: "You have the right to choose to purchase the services of others."

    However, I believe if you have a history of not paying for the service of a provider, then that provider should be able to refuse to provide the service.
    And if you show up in the ER unconscious, then how are you going to choose to purchase the services of the doctor or your choice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    And if you show up in the ER unconscious, then how are you going to choose to purchase the services of the doctor or your choice?
    Not forgetting the Dr's oath to do the sick no harm. Denying treatment is harmful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Not forgetting the Dr's oath to do the sick no harm. Denying treatment is harmful.
    No, actually it's not. There's a difference between harming someone, for which you can be prosecuted, and not helping, for which you can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    As long as it's an emergency and/or not life threatening, absolutely.
    By law only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    No. It isn't, you just don't like it.

    How are you supposed to provide healthcare (as a right) without the needed personnel? And since they cannot refuse to treat someone, how is that not slavery?

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    IF you are gonna call that slavery we are already there.

    However actual slaves and their descendants may take exception to that stretching of the definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    IF you are gonna call that slavery we are already there.

    However actual slaves and their descendants may take exception to that stretching of the definition.
    It is slavery by definition. Just not in the hyperbolic sense you're thinking.
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    Hospitals and doctors are in the business to make money. They would accept anyone who will pay, just like any other business owner.

    There are a LOT of people who won't pay. They should have to accept the consequences of their actions. Personal responsibility.

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