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    Islamic Conversion

    Do American African blacks convert to Islam because they see it as an oppressed minority group and see it as a fellow group?

    I have known 2 black Muslims that have taken the name "Shabazz"

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    This Islam thing is getting a bit hammered now, but it’s about sub-culture group identity. You’re into the colour thing? You join BLM. Anarchy? Antifa is your choice. Something more exotic? Islam. Then again, you could say ‘sod the lot of them’ and join a street gang. It’s the same thing and the minorities and dispossessed in street gangs and prisons are where the Muslims initially recruit from. When they gain enough adherents they move into the schools (as in gay rights) and start the street protests (as in BLM), or attack the system (as in Antifa).


    It’s about being something greater than yourself, a family, a belonging and in turn you become special. You’re initiated into a closed world in any of these groups, complete with the fancy dress that goes with it and even if you’re a complete deadbeat and never got any further than a welfare check, you immediately gain status and lose the oddball loner tag.


    Who wants to stand in the street with a boring placard with, ‘I vote Republican/Democrat’ written on it, when you can shout support for your ‘brothers’ in Afghanistan, or do a bit of looting with BLM. Just as the communists did their recruiting with the Ban the Bomb and civil rights protesters in the previous generation, it’s now about minorities and the various groups are busily doing their recruiting from the same minorities and their liberal supporters.


    It’s when Islam starts to take off, as it has in the UK, that the problems begin.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833926/Europe-s-jails-breeding-grounds-jihadists-ISIS-criminals-ideal-recruits-one-five-UK-maximum-security-prisoners-Muslim.html


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/14/birmingham-schools-investigated-over-islamist-takeover-allegations

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/07/mi5-chief-34-uk-terror-plots-disrupted
    Last edited by Refugee; 10-15-2017 at 11:57 PM.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    This Islam thing is getting a bit hammered now, but it’s about sub-culture group identity. You’re into the colour thing? You join BLM. Anarchy? Antifa is your choice. Something more exotic? Islam. Then again, you could say ‘sod the lot of them’ and join a street gang. It’s the same thing and the minorities and dispossessed in street gangs and prisons are where the Muslims initially recruit from. When they gain enough adherents they move into the schools (as in gay rights) and start the street protests (as in BLM), or attack the system (as in Antifa).


    It’s about being something greater than yourself, a family, a belonging and in turn you become special. You’re initiated into a closed world in any of these groups, complete with the fancy dress that goes with it and even if you’re a complete deadbeat and never got any further than a welfare check, you immediately gain status and lose the oddball loner tag.


    Who wants to stand in the street with a boring placard with, ‘I vote Republican/Democrat’ written on it, when you can shout support for your ‘brothers’ in Afghanistan, or do a bit of looting with BLM. Just as the communists did their recruiting with the Ban the Bomb and civil rights protesters in the previous generation, it’s now about minorities and the various groups are busily doing their recruiting from the same minorities and their liberal supporters.


    It’s when Islam starts to take off, as it has in the UK, that the problems begin.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833926/Europe-s-jails-breeding-grounds-jihadists-ISIS-criminals-ideal-recruits-one-five-UK-maximum-security-prisoners-Muslim.html


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/14/birmingham-schools-investigated-over-islamist-takeover-allegations

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/07/mi5-chief-34-uk-terror-plots-disrupted
    I hear ya Man. People want to have a sense of belonging.

    I believe that outlier groups recruit from minorities.

    Interestingly, these black fellas I mentioned, I met in state prison, years ago.

    I wonder how many persue that religion upon release.

    Lots of people find all kinds of religion in prison but as soon as that door opens, it is forgotten.
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    Islam is more than a religion and behind all these agendas is a purpose. Just like joining a street gang in prison, it comes with an aftercare package on release. For many, there is nothing to be released to and having a taste of a ‘family’ is not easily forgotten. A little like the revolving door recidivists who keep going back to prison - there isn’t much out there for them. Can’t say I’ve been on the receiving end of prisons myself, but I have worked in them as part of my forensic psychiatry studies many years ago. That was among sex-offenders though, but the psychology behind it all is the same kind of thing.








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    It isn't a conversion at all. Adopting a so called religion for the purpose of having something to belong to is certainly not a conversion.

    I wanna kill people. So, I sign on with a club that does. I wanna have 72 virgins on a purple sofa. After I kill people. Yeah, buddie.

    People, all to many, do not think at all. Reasoning is alien to them. Fantasy easily becomes the feature presentation when the purpose for being is ignored, forgotten, or demoted to a file cabinet where opinions are stored. Buy the truth, and sell it not. Hold it dear for it is like searching for gold. This is what honest people do.

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    Is it Islam, or Nation of Islam?
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Is it Islam, or Nation of Islam?
    Followers of the murderous "prophet" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Is it Islam, or Nation of Islam?
    Is it America, or the United States of America?








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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    Is it America, or the United States of America?
    Nation of Islam differs from Islam.

    People who hear for the first time about the ‘Nation of Islam’ (NOI) will immediately correlate it with Islam itself. However, these two religious sects are not to be considered one and the same. To people’s surprise, there are really many differences between the two.

    Some experts even believe that the teachings of the NOI don’t really coincide with that of Islam. In fact, they even claimed that those who follow these teachings are mostly Black and racist individuals, and are not be considered to be true Muslims. Due to this, believers of the so-called real Islam denounce the teachings of NOI.



    Read more: Difference Between Islam and the Nation of Islam | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/mis...#ixzz4wWxJoD4c

    ...Lastly, Islam is a religion for all. You need not be black or white to be qualified as a follower. This religion strictly forbids man from considering themselves to be at par with God. In their history, there are no more new prophets to come, since it was Muhammad PBUH who was considered to be the last.

    1. NOI promotes racism, whereas Islam doesn’t.

    2. NOI believes in Elijah and not in Muhammad PBUH, whereas Islam follows the teachings of the latter.

    3. NOI is a newer religious group founded in 1930, compared to the older Islamic religion.
    @ http://www.differencebetween.net/mis...#ixzz4wWx98QLA


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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Followers of the murderous "prophet" ?
    Wasn't aware Islam's prophet murdered.
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