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    Adult ADHD and crime rates

    Adults With ADHD Commit Fewer Crimes When On Medication
    ScienceDaily (Nov. 22, 2012) — Criminal behaviour in people with ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) dropped sharply during periods when they were on medication, according to a new extensive registry study conducted at Karolinska Institutet in Sweden. The study that contained of over 25,000 individuals is published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM).

    While previous research has shown that people with ADHD are more likely to enter a life of crime, it has remained uncertain how ADHD medication affects this risk. After having studied over 25,000 individuals with ADHD from different registries over a four-year period (2006-2009), researchers at Karolinska Institutet have now been able to examine the link between ADHD medication and criminality.

    The study demonstrates in a variety of ways links between ADHD medication and a reduced risk of criminality. For example, the incidence of criminal behaviour was lower amongst medicated individuals than unmedicated ones; and in the same individual comparing periods of medication with no medication, they also found that ADHD drugs were associated with a significant risk reduction of 32 per cent. This way of studying the same individual is a particular strength in that it shows that the risk reduction is probably not attributable to differences between participants on medication and those not.


    Adults with ADHD Commit Fewer Crimes When on Medication

    I remember doing an independent research study on violent young offenders who had been convicted before age 18, where I interviewed them in prisons, juvenile halls, and schools. More than a quarter reported having ADHD, closely followed by several other fairly common mental illness or behavioural disorders. I've always found ADHD very interesting... the fact that December babies are more likely to be incorrectly diagnosed with it because they're less mature than their January-Febuary-March peers (study out of BC released earlier this year), the differential diagnosis of bipolar disorder, the general public's opposition to prescribing medication, and so on.

    So I found this not so much surprising, but interesting nonetheless. I suppose a major barrier towards preventing crime in individuals with ADHD would be availability of affordable medication and a willingness to be compliant with the medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Adults with ADHD Commit Fewer Crimes When on Medication

    I remember doing an independent research study on violent young offenders who had been convicted before age 18, where I interviewed them in prisons, juvenile halls, and schools. More than a quarter reported having ADHD, closely followed by several other fairly common mental illness or behavioural disorders. I've always found ADHD very interesting... the fact that December babies are more likely to be incorrectly diagnosed with it because they're less mature than their January-Febuary-March peers (study out of BC released earlier this year), the differential diagnosis of bipolar disorder, the general public's opposition to prescribing medication, and so on.

    So I found this not so much surprising, but interesting nonetheless. I suppose a major barrier towards preventing crime in individuals with ADHD would be availability of affordable medication and a willingness to be compliant with the medication.
    I wonder how many of those criminals were misdiagnosed due to poor parenting. It seems crime rates and poor parenting would also be correlated, if we had a measure for the latter.

    I think I was misdiagnosed. I stopped taking my meds for ADD a long time ago, but most of my problems are social or related to lack of memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    I wonder how many of those criminals were misdiagnosed due to poor parenting. It seems crime rates and poor parenting would also be correlated, if we had a measure for the latter.

    I think I was misdiagnosed. I stopped taking my meds for ADD a long time ago, but most of my problems are social or related to lack of memory.
    Do you find that symptoms reappear during high stress times? Wouldn't surprise me if it was a misdiagnosis, but it could also be that you grew out of it - which happens.

    The odds are that many children up until fairly recently were misdiagnosed with ADD/ADHD. I would think/hope that this trend would be reduced now that developmental/behavioural psychologists and physicians understand the disorders better. The research study that concluded most individuals diagnosed with the disorder were born in the later months was really interesting - they were less mature than their classmates and automatically given the label. I should go find it...

    There is also a book on bipolar disorder that I had to read a few years back by Demitri and Janice Papolos that had an entire portion of the book dedicated to the differential diagnosis of ADHD for bipolar disorder. So, children who are actualy exhibiting signs of a mood disorder are diagnosed with ADHD and then you've got children exhibiting signs of a behavioural/developmental disorder being diagnosed as bipolar. The medications for these disorders are entirely different classifications of drugs so it's a pretty big clinical error to make and could deeply worsen the outcomes in the long-term, especially given that reversing a diagnosis can often take years of observation, multiple failed therapy models, multiple physicians/therapists, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Do you find that symptoms reappear during high stress times? Wouldn't surprise me if it was a misdiagnosis, but it could also be that you grew out of it - which happens.
    Well if symptoms persist it isn't during high stress times, since I tend to work better under stress. I do much better in school these days, but it could just be that I adapted. Idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Do you find that symptoms reappear during high stress times? Wouldn't surprise me if it was a misdiagnosis, but it could also be that you grew out of it - which happens.

    The odds are that many children up until fairly recently were misdiagnosed with ADD/ADHD. I would think/hope that this trend would be reduced now that developmental/behavioural psychologists and physicians understand the disorders better. The research study that concluded most individuals diagnosed with the disorder were born in the later months was really interesting - they were less mature than their classmates and automatically given the label. I should go find it...

    There is also a book on bipolar disorder that I had to read a few years back by Demitri and Janice Papolos that had an entire portion of the book dedicated to the differential diagnosis of ADHD for bipolar disorder. So, children who are actualy exhibiting signs of a mood disorder are diagnosed with ADHD and then you've got children exhibiting signs of a behavioural/developmental disorder being diagnosed as bipolar. The medications for these disorders are entirely different classifications of drugs so it's a pretty big clinical error to make and could deeply worsen the outcomes in the long-term, especially given that reversing a diagnosis can often take years of observation, multiple failed therapy models, multiple physicians/therapists, and so on.
    You never grow out of ADD. You make go arounds to hide it. This just shows waht a little information does.
    I'm ADD and not misdiagnosed.I have trouble remembering names so i don't address people by name. I have trouble thinking quickly so I always hesitate before answering even if I have the answer right in front of me.I'm terrible at math( usually true with ADD) so I consider the calculator as a God send. Doctors know less about ADD that they do the common cold.

    People with ADD tend to be very blunt. They don't have a real trigger guard when they think. What I think is what i say too many times. What I think sometimes needs better wording that most people do naturally.

    Go find an ADD group and see how mistaken you are. No one who really has ADD would recognize what you posted.
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    Kids Are Taking Fewer Antibiotics, More ADHD Meds
    May 15, 2018 • Doctors are prescribing fewer drugs to children, especially antibiotics. But use of certain drugs, including ADHD medications, has increased.
    Children and adolescents are getting fewer prescription drugs than they did in years past, according to a study that looks at a cross-section of the American population. "The decrease in antibiotic use is really what's driving this overall decline in prescription medication use that we're seeing in children and adolescents," says Craig Hales, a preventive medicine physician at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Health Statistics and lead author of a study published Tuesday in JAMA. Hales says that's a good thing. "Thirty percent of antibiotic prescriptions are unnecessary and potentially dangerous," he says. They're often given for colds and other viral infections, where they are useless. And they may have side effects. Antibiotic overuse also increases the risk that these drugs lose their curative powers.

    The study is based on data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Study, which included more than 38,000 children and adolescents. The study compared prescription drug use from 1999 to 2002 with prescriptions given in 2011 to 2014, the last period for which data were available. Overall, the proportion of children and teenagers getting prescriptions dropped from about 25 percent to 22 percent. Prescriptions for some drugs increased, such as for treatments for asthma, contraception and attention-deficit and hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). The survey also noted a large gap in prescription use among children and adolescents who were insured versus those who weren't. Some 23 percent of insured youth had recently taken a prescription of some sort, compared with 10 percent of those who were uninsured.


    It's hard to know how exactly to interpret many of the findings, says Gary Freed, a pediatrician and researcher at the University of Michigan Medical School, who was not involved with the research. That gap could be a sign of overuse among the insured or underuse in the uninsured. "It's very common for people who don't need things but want to pay for them, to be able to get them," Freed says. "It's also possible that some children who really need medications, if they're uninsured, don't get them." The study doesn't provide information that can address key questions like that. For example, antihistamines are widely overused or inappropriately used in children, Freed says. The study shows a decline in prescriptions for antihistamines, but that may simply be because many of these drugs came available without a prescription during the study period. "So the fact that the prescribing went down may mean something good or it may simply mean that people are going to the drugstore and buying those same medications," Freed says.

    Freed says he can't even say whether the overall use of prescription drugs in children and teen-agers, at 22 percent in a typical 30-day period, is a sign of overuse or underuse. "The danger is thinking 'oh my goodness that's so many kids getting medications,' " he says. "But at the same time, before we make that conclusion we have to know whether those were appropriate or not appropriate. "More children than ever are alive today because they've survived diseases that require medical treatment, he notes. Yet certain drugs are still overused. And in other instances, such as ADHD drugs, there's disagreement about when treatment is appropriate. Those questions require more directed – and more expensive – studies. Hales hopes that his broad-brush findings will stimulate that further research.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...more-adhd-meds

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    Could ADHD be related to nutritional deficiencies? I have heard that omega 3s help out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Could ADHD be related to nutritional deficiencies? I have heard that omega 3s help out.
    There has been a lot of research coming out lately that omega 3 is overrated. But yeah, it's supposed to help ADHD symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Could ADHD be related to nutritional deficiencies? I have heard that omega 3s help out.
    Interestingly I have had an allergic to every seafood that I've tried, although that isn't many. Can't even be in the room while fish is being cooked. I think it would be kinda nuts to consider that my lack of Omega 3 is some how related to my diagnosis.

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