Captain Obvious (10-21-2017)
That "woman" is very typical of the extremes many women seek to be. No photoshop needed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=musc...w=1280&bih=868
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....
IMPress Polly (10-21-2017)
I'm a teacher. This is a good example of the current feminine ideal that I see the kids currently favoring:
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It's very cutesy. Not exactly punkish types of muscle-women. There are subsections of society that prefer different aesthetics, but cutesy aesthetics prevail among today's girls. Nothing wrong with it. I'm just saying that's what it is.
Last edited by IMPress Polly; 10-21-2017 at 11:04 AM.
Different people like different stuff. No big deal.
IMPress Polly (10-21-2017),Peter1469 (10-21-2017)
That would be rather myopic. Given that you use a very ambiguous definition of "masculinity", and that typically it's less a matter of "masculinity" being unattractive in women - and more a matter of imbalance or disproportion.
The Taoist concepts of "Yin/Yang" seems to do a better job describing things, as it recognizes that both 'sexes' contain elements of each essences - the difference would be the proportions and the balance.
None of the traits you mentioned are exclusively "masculine", they're merely character traits; of the ambiguous traits you mentioned, "self-reliance" may be the one most emphasized in men.Masculinity can be present in any type of man. The masculine man can be a liberal or a conservative. He can be black or white. Straight or gay. Educated or not. Handsome or not.
The following is not a check list. I think we all recognize masculine men when we see them.
1. Leading: When everyone else is losing his mind, a leader stays calm and looks at the situation unemotionally. He steps up and makes the decisions that other people don’t want to make because they’re afraid of being blamed if all goes south. Real leaders just naturally take charge, not because they need to do it for their self-esteem, but because it’s who they are.
2. Dominant: Manly men are not to be trifled with. They are capable of standing up for themselves verbally and if necessary, physically. The way they walk, talk and carry themselves sends a message and that message is, “You’re not pushing me around because I take no $#@!.”
3. Self-Reliance: I once met an 18 year old kid at a dinner party before a wedding. I knew almost nothing about him except that he didn’t plan to eat because he couldn’t pay for his meal. I told him, “No problem. I’ll take care of it,” and he refused….because he couldn’t pay for it himself. I respect that kid as a man because of his attitude. Men who prepare, who pay their own way, who handle their business are men who earn the respect of other men.
4. Achievement: Just as women are judged on their beauty, men are judged on their achievements. It’s the guy you would want getting your back in a fight...the dude who has skills that other men wish they had.
5. Confidence: A lot of people take a “Fake it until you make it” attitude towards confidence, but those people are only simulating it. Really confident men are that way because they have gone outside their comfort zone over and over because they’ve faced adversity and succeeded, because they’ve tested themselves until they’ve become good at whatever they’re doing.
https://grumpysloth.com/5-admirable-...#ixzz4w3iQZljX
An individual regardless of sex, for example, who lacks inner confidence would be perceived as inferior or unremarkable as a person. Likewise, in either sex, some will tend to be "leaders" within their own social group, whether male or female.
Women likewise, wouldn't be exclusively judged on "beauty" especially from a purely physical perspective. Beauty philosophically, though is a holistic concept linked to morality.
Last edited by Devil'sAdvocate; 10-22-2017 at 06:09 AM.