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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Then who did they sell it to, and to whom did the people they sold it to give it to? Who possesses it now and how did they get it?
    From Wikipedia :

    Creation
    According to reports, the dossier was created as part of opposition research on Trump. The investigation into Trump was initially funded by "Never Trump" Republicans and later by Democrats.[12][13][14] In September 2015, a wealthy Republican donor who opposed Trump's candidacy in the Republican primary hired Fusion GPS, an American research firm, to do opposition research on Trump. For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee in May 2016, the Republican donor withdrew and the investigation contract was taken over by an unidentified Democratic client.[14][15] After the election, Glenn R. Simpson of Fusion GPS "reportedly spent his own money to continue the investigation".[5]

    In June 2016, it was revealed that the Democratic National Committee website had been hacked by Russian sources, so Fusion GPS hired Orbis Business Intelligence, a private British intelligence firm, to look into any Russian connections.[14] The investigation was undertaken by Orbis co-founder Christopher Steele, a retired British MI6 officer with expertise in Russian matters. Steele delivered his report as a series of two- or three-page memos, starting in June 2016 and continuing through December. He continued his investigation even after the Democratic client stopped paying for it following Trump's election.[14]

    On his own initiative, Steele decided to also pass the information to British and American intelligence services because he believed the findings were a matter of national security for both countries.[16] However, he became frustrated with the FBI, which he believed was failing to investigate his reports, choosing instead to focus on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails. According to The Independent, Steele came to believe that there was a "cabal" inside the FBI, particularly its New York field office linked to Trump advisor Rudy Giuliani, which blocked any attempts to investigate the links between Trump and Russia.[16] In October 2016, Steele passed on what he discovered so far to a reporter from Mother Jones magazine.

    Shortly after the presidential election, Senator John McCain, who had been informed about the alleged links between Kremlin and Trump, met with former British ambassador to Moscow Sir Andrew Wood. Wood confirmed the existence of the dossier and vouched for Steele's "professionalism and integrity".[16] McCain obtained the dossier from David J. Kramer and took it directly to FBI director James Comey on December 9, 2016.[14][13]

    In a court filing in April 2017, Steele revealed previously unreported information that in December 2016 he gave one more report to "the senior British national security official and sent an encrypted version to Fusion GPS with instructions to deliver a hard copy to Senator McCain.... Comey has confirmed that counter-intelligence investigations are under way into possible links between Trump associates and Moscow, and CNN has reported that the FBI used the dossier to bolster its investigations."[17]
    This is all pretty well known.
    People who think a movie about plastic dolls is trying to turn their kids gay or trans are now officially known as

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    Trumps childish stuff doesn't bother me at all. It frightens me that many care about meaningless nonsense more than actual errant and destructive policy, but from Trump and Presidents past. Style means more than policy, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Trumps childish stuff doesn't bother me at all. It frightens me that many care about meaningless nonsense more than actual errant and destructive policy, but from Trump and Presidents past. Style means more than policy, I guess.
    You’re not in daily contact with overseas consulates on a daily basis as I am. Trust me when I say Trump’s erratic behavior worries both our allies and especially citizens overseas.
    How crazy alt righties got pwnd by a conervative web site:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/berlins.../#3b7ecb78e9b5
    il·lib·er·al
    i(l)ˈlib(ə)rəladjective1.opposed to liberal principles; restricting freedom of thought or behavior
    "illiberal and anti-democratic policies
    • synonyms: intolerant, narrow-minded, unenlightened, conservative, reactionary;


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Like Trump, you've become to actually believe the lies you spout.
    What do you believe is a lie?
    1) BJ was paid 500k for a one hour speech by the Russians
    2) The Russians placed 1ook worth of adverts on FB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    Crepitus - I will try and address your questions. In summary, I don't think President Trump's supporters seem bothered about his behavior. It doesn't seem to matter what he says or does. In truth, it's frustrating to me seeing how he's decimated the role of President but I'm more bothered by his supporters behavior then his. I try to remain positive and hope that a line still exists in which his supporters won't tolerate him crossing. This is all to be done at this point.
    What is the role of the President and how do you think he has decimated it?
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    You’re not in daily contact with overseas consulates on a daily basis as I am. Trust me when I say Trump’s erratic behavior worries both our allies and especially citizens overseas.
    Trump was elected because he was not part of the Establishment. Those shock-waves hit the entire world.
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