#MeToo Revives Non-Partisanship in the Women's Movement

[Mister D]

"Women" aren't a group in any meaningful way. It's like saying "mankind" or "humanity". Those are zoological terms without any historical or cultural content.

An individualistic mentality has pervaded Western cultures for centuries. It was only in such an atmosphere that a concept like "class" was even conceivable.

[Chris]

My point is that the previous trend in the movement valued the choices of each individual woman over the interests of women as a group, as aptly parodied in that now-classic Onion satire article, Women Now Empowered By Everything A Woman Does. Buying shoes was empowerment. That individualistic mentality, born out of the global trend toward neoliberal thinking that began around 1980 in earnest, is what has yielded tolerance of the sex industry and the disappearance of our private spaces, for instance.

Polly, individualism was a major part of Classical Liberalism arising out of the Englightenment, not something from neoliberalism.

So in that regard, I think you stretch things relying as you do on satire. I mean, really, how would individualism result in disappearance of private spaces!?!?

It's collectivism that yoielded that result.

[Mister D]

Polly, individualism was a major part of Classical Liberalism arising out of the Englightenment, not something from neoliberalism.

So in that regard, I think you stretch things relying as you do on satire. I mean, really, how would individualism result in disappearance of private spaces!?!?

It's collectivism that yoielded that result.

I'm convinced the real turning poitn was the Protestant Reformation.

[Chris]

"Women" aren't a group in any meaningful way. It's like saying "mankind" or "humanity". Those are zoological terms without any historical or cultural content.

An individualistic mentality has pervaded Western cultures for centuries. It was only in such an atmosphere that a concept like "class" was even conceivable.

And in parallel, since Rousseau, collectivism, a collectivism not the organic sort that predominated up to modern times, but the sort designed to assimilate people away from the old order and into the new statist order.

But true, I think #MeToo is part of the individualist mentality rather than the new collectivist one.

[Chris]

I'm convinced the real turning poitn was the Protestant Reformation.

That, but also the rediscovery of ancient Greek philosophy by the likes of Aquinas. The RC with its focus on the individual undermined itself as well.

[Mister D]

Private spaces have never been more intact. I thin she means private spaces for females as a (non-existent) group.

[Mister D]

That, but also the rediscovery of ancient Greek philosophy by the likes of Aquinas. The RC with its focus on the individual undermined itself as well.

I agree 100%. The intellectual conditions were present in Christianity from the beginning. I just think the Reformation turned a potentiality into reality.

[Chris]

I agree 100%. The intellectual conditions were present in Christianity from the beginning. I just think the Reformation turned a potentiality into reality.

The Reformation proclaimed individuals could read the Bible for themselves. Science, too, turned individualistic as it turned away from authority and to individual empirical observation.

But we stray. The important point is individualism didn't arise from neoliberalism.

[Mister D]

The Reformation proclaimed individuals could read the Bible for themselves. Science, too, turned individualistic as it turned away from authority and to individual empirical observation.

But we stray. The important point is individualism didn't arise from neoliberalism.

The proclaimed validity of private interpretation was a major factor in forming the modern self and, yes, that did spill over into science. We're speaking in very general terms. If anyone is actually interested I could recommend several excellent works on the subject.
We agree but I would suggest individualism has received full ideological expression in neoliberalism.

[Private Pickle]

I referred to sexual predators.

If you've got nothing to contribute, please go away.

Only prominate ones? Whatever Freud...