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    The essence of the facts

    Muslims worship a God that is different from the one worshipped by Christians and Jews.
    This might be due to the fact that Muslims often refer to God as "Allah". This concept is false, since "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for the One true "God" Who created the universe and all humanity. Let there be no doubt - Muslims worship the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus. However, it is certainly true that Jews, Christians and Muslims all have different concepts of Almighty God. For example, Muslims - like Jews - reject the Christian beliefs of the Trinity and the Divine Incarnation.

    This, however, does not mean that each of these three religions worships a different God - because, as we have already said, there is only One True God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim to be “Abrahamic Faiths”, and all of them are also classified as “monotheistic.” However, Islam teaches that other religions have, in one way or another, distorted and nullified a pure and proper belief in Almighty God by neglecting His true teachings and mixing them with man-made ideas. Islam calls upon people to return to the one true God and to worship and obey Him alone. Islam teaches that God should be approached without intermediaries. That is because the merciful all-knowing God is completely in control of everything that exists and that He can bestow His grace and mercy on His creatures as He pleases; therefore no intercession, atonement or incarnation is necessary.


    Arabic speaking people of all religions refer to God as "Allah". For example, if you pick up an Arabic translation of the Christian Bible you will see the word "Allah" where "God" is used in English. Therefore, Allah is not the god of only the Muslims, but the same God worshipped by all monotheistic faiths. This idea that "Allah" is different from "God" is illogical since it is tantamount to saying that the French worship a different "god" because they use the word "Dieu", that Spaniards worship a different "god" because they say "Dios" or that the Hebrews worshipped a different "god" because they called Him "Yahweh"!

    The Quran, which is the divine scripture of Muslims, was revealed in the Arabic language, so Muslims use the word "Allah" for "God", even when they are speaking other languages. A more literal translation of "Allah" into English might be "the one- and-only God" or "the one true God".
    It should be clearly understood that what Islam is primarily concerned with is correcting humankind's concept of Almighty God. What people are ultimately going to be held accountable for at the end of Day of Judgment is not whether they preferred the word "Allah" or the word "God", but what their concept of Him is. The true concept of God is clarified only within the message revealed by Him. The last message sent by God, or Allah, is the Quran.


    i convert to islam because i love jesus


    i convert to islam after watching this video !



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    But Islam respects Jesus as a Prophet, correct? What is the difference between Him and Muhhamhed (sp?) in that case? Eninn?
    There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.

    Book of Democrat Things, Chapter 1:1






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    Muslims respect Jesus as a prophet, not as a God. Islam is still a relatively new faith and the only reason that it came about is that Mohammed used it to unite the warring tribes of Arabia, hence the submissive aspect of it. As far as I’m aware, it’s the only world religion that forces others to accept – it’s not an individual choice. If what you say were the case, you would also know that Jesus said he was the only son of God. Mohammed being a messenger of Allah is another thing entirely and is about as man-made as it gets. Islam is a cult, a nasty one at that and if it were introduced today, it would be banned by every Human Rights Act in existence. From Russia to Europe, into Africa and Asia, It’s probably the most hated ‘religion’ in the world and brings death and suffering wherever it surfaces. I do understand that this is your required Muslim ‘Jihad’ eninn and not because you love Jesus.








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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    But Islam respects Jesus as a Prophet, correct? What is the difference between Him and Muhhamhed (sp?) in that case? Eninn?
    Jesus is divine / God, Muhammed was supposedly a prophet.

    Scholar Kevin J. Conner lists 27 initial scriptural evidences demonstrating the deity of Christ:

    1. Jesus existed in the beginning (John 1:1; Philip 2:6; Rev. 19:13; Micah 5:2).
    2. He was with God (John 1:1).
    3. He is God, the Son (John 1:1; Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8, 10; I John 5:20).
    4. He is God manifest in the flesh (John 20:28; I Tim. 3:16; Col. 2:9; Acts 20:28; Heb. 1:8).
    5. He is God foretold (Isaiah 9:6; Psalm 45:6).
    6. He is Immanuel, God with us (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23).
    7. He is the true God (I John 5:20 with Titus 2:13; Romans 9:5).
    8. He is the great God (Titus 2:13).
    9. He is God our Savior (II Peter 1:1).
    10. He existed in the form of God before His incarnation and was equal with God the Father (Philippians 2:5-7)
    11. He is the only wise God (Jude 25).
    12. He is omnipotent over disease. (Matthew 8:1-4; Luke 4:39)
    13. He is omnipotent over demons. (Matthew 8:16-17; Luke 4:35)
    14. He is omnipotent over nature. ((Matthew 8:26)
    15. He is omnipotent over death. (Luke 7:14-15; John 11:25)
    16. He is omniscient, knowing the hearts of the Pharisees. (Matthew 12:25; Luke 5:22; 6:8; 7:39-40)
    17. He knew the thoughts of the scribes. (Matthew 9:3-4)
    18. He knew the history of the Samaritan woman. (John 4:24)
    19. He is omnipresent. (Matthew 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13; 14:20)
    20. He was worshiped as God by the angels (Hebrews 1:6); worshiped as God by the wise men (Matthew 2:2); worshiped as God by the shepherds (Luke 2:15); worshiped as God by a ruler (Matthew 9:18); worshiped as God by Thomas (John 20:28); worshiped as God by the apostles (Matthew 14:33;28:9)
    21. He forgives sins. (Mark 2:5)
    22. He saves (only God saves). Matthew 18:11; John 10:28).
    23. He judges. (John 5:22)
    24. Paul, Peter, Jude, James, and John called Him God. (Galatians 2:20; 1 Peter 3:22; Jude 25; James 2:1; I John 5:20; Revelation 1:18; 19:16)
    25. He is God’s Son, who was sent to bring us eternal life. (John 3:16)
    26. He arose from death in the flesh (John 20:26-28; Luke 24:39-43; I John 4:2-3).
    27. One with the Father (John 10:30).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Jesus is divine / God, Muhammed was supposedly a prophet.

    Scholar Kevin J. Conner lists 27 initial scriptural evidences demonstrating the deity of Christ:

    1. Jesus existed in the beginning (John 1:1; Philip 2:6; Rev. 19:13; Micah 5:2).
    2. He was with God (John 1:1).
    3. He is God, the Son (John 1:1; Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8, 10; I John 5:20).
    4. He is God manifest in the flesh (John 20:28; I Tim. 3:16; Col. 2:9; Acts 20:28; Heb. 1:8).
    5. He is God foretold (Isaiah 9:6; Psalm 45:6).
    6. He is Immanuel, God with us (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23).
    7. He is the true God (I John 5:20 with Titus 2:13; Romans 9:5).
    8. He is the great God (Titus 2:13).
    9. He is God our Savior (II Peter 1:1).
    10. He existed in the form of God before His incarnation and was equal with God the Father (Philippians 2:5-7)
    11. He is the only wise God (Jude 25).
    12. He is omnipotent over disease. (Matthew 8:1-4; Luke 4:39)
    13. He is omnipotent over demons. (Matthew 8:16-17; Luke 4:35)
    14. He is omnipotent over nature. ((Matthew 8:26)
    15. He is omnipotent over death. (Luke 7:14-15; John 11:25)
    16. He is omniscient, knowing the hearts of the Pharisees. (Matthew 12:25; Luke 5:22; 6:8; 7:39-40)
    17. He knew the thoughts of the scribes. (Matthew 9:3-4)
    18. He knew the history of the Samaritan woman. (John 4:24)
    19. He is omnipresent. (Matthew 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13; 14:20)
    20. He was worshiped as God by the angels (Hebrews 1:6); worshiped as God by the wise men (Matthew 2:2); worshiped as God by the shepherds (Luke 2:15); worshiped as God by a ruler (Matthew 9:18); worshiped as God by Thomas (John 20:28); worshiped as God by the apostles (Matthew 14:33;28:9)
    21. He forgives sins. (Mark 2:5)
    22. He saves (only God saves). Matthew 18:11; John 10:28).
    23. He judges. (John 5:22)
    24. Paul, Peter, Jude, James, and John called Him God. (Galatians 2:20; 1 Peter 3:22; Jude 25; James 2:1; I John 5:20; Revelation 1:18; 19:16)
    25. He is God’s Son, who was sent to bring us eternal life. (John 3:16)
    26. He arose from death in the flesh (John 20:26-28; Luke 24:39-43; I John 4:2-3).
    27. One with the Father (John 10:30).
    I confess Jesus as my Savior and declare Him the Son of GOD.
    There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.

    Book of Democrat Things, Chapter 1:1






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    Jesus is a figure who is loved and revered by billions of people the world over. Yet there is so much confusion surrounding the status of this colossal personality. Muslims and Christians both hold Jesus in high regard but view him in very different ways.

    The questions raised in this article aim to get to the heart of the issues surrounding Jesus: Is Jesus God? Or was he sent by God? Who was the real historical Jesus?

    Some ambiguous verses of the Bible can be applied erroneously to show that Jesus is in some way divine. But if we look at the clear, direct verses of the Bible, we see again and again that Jesus is being referred to as an extraordinary human being and nothing more. What emerges, when we consider the historical and logical facts about Jesus’ life, is conclusive proof not only that Jesus cannot be God, but that he never claimed to be either.

    What follows are five lines of reasoning which clarify this subject for us through the Bible itself and thereby allow us to discover the real Jesus.
    1. Jesus Never Calls Himself God

    The Bible (in spite of being changed and adulterated over time) contains many verses in which Jesus speaks of God as a separate person to himself. Here are just a few of them:

    When a man addressed Jesus as “Good Teacher”, he replied “Why do you call me good? No one is good except the one God.’’ [Mark 10:18]

    In another instance he says: “I can’t do anything by myself. Whatever I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just. I don’t seek my own will but the will of the one who sent me.” [John 5:30]

    Jesus speaks of God as a separate being to himself: I’m going up to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God. [John 20:17]
    In this verse he affirms that he was sent by God: This is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you sent. [John 17:3]

    If Jesus was God he would have told people to worship him, but he did the opposite and disapproved anyone worshipping him: And in vain they worship Me [Matthew 15:9]

    If Jesus claimed to be God than there should be hundreds of verses in the Bible which would have mentioned it. But there is not a single verse in the entire Bible in which Jesus says I am God, worship me.
    2. Jesus as Son and Lord?

    Jesus is sometimes referred to as ‘Lord’ in the Bible and at other times as ‘Son of God’. God is called the ‘Father’, so putting these names together it could be claimed that Jesus is the son of God. But if we look at each of these titles in context we will find that they are symbolic and not to be taken literally.

    ‘Son of God’ is a term used in ancient Hebrew for a righteous person. God calls Israel his ‘son’: This is what the LORD says: Israel is my oldest son.[Exodus 4:22]. Also, David is called the ‘Son of God’: The LORD has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.’ [Psalm 2:7]. In fact anyone who is righteous is referred to as God’s ‘son’: All who are led by God’s Spirit are God’s sons and daughters. [Romans 8:14].

    In the same way, when the word ‘Father’ is used to refer to God it shouldn’t be taken literally. Instead it’s a way of saying God is the creator, sustainer, cherisher etc. There are many verses for us to understand this symbolic meaning of the word ‘Father’, for example: one God and Father of all. [Ephesians 4:6].

    Jesus is sometimes called ‘Lord’ by the disciples. ‘Lord’ is a term used for God and also for people who are held in high esteem. There are many examples of the word ‘Lord’ being used for people in the Bible: So they (Joseph’s brothers) went up to Joseph’s steward and spoke to him at the entrance to the house. “We beg your pardon, our lord,” they said. [Genesis 43:19-20]. Also, in other parts of the Bible, Jesus is even called a ‘servant’ of God by the disciples: the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. [Acts 3:13]. This clearly shows that when ‘Lord’ is used to refer to Jesus, it is a title of respect not of divinity.
    3. The Nature of Jesus

    The nature of Jesus was totally different to that of God. There are many parts of the Bible that highlight this difference in nature:

    God is All-Knowing but Jesus by his own admission was not All-Knowing. This can be seen in the following passage when Jesus says “But nobody knows when that day or hour will come, not the heavenly angels and not the Son. Only the Father knows.” [Matthew 24:36]

    God is independent and he doesn’t need sleep, food or water. Jesus however ate, drank, slept and depended on God: As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father. [John 6:57]. Another sign of Jesus’ dependence on God is that he prayed to God: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed [Matthew 26:39]. This shows that Jesus himself sought help from God. God, being the one who answers prayers does not need to pray to anyone. Also, Jesus said: I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than me. [John 14:28].

    The Bible is clear that God is unseen and is not a man: for no one may see me and live. [Exodus 33:20], God is not a man [Numbers 23:19]. Jesus on the other hand was a man who was seen by thousands of people, so he could not be God. Furthermore, the Bible makes it clear that God is too great to be inside his creation: But how could God possibly live on earth with people? If heaven, even the highest heaven, can’t contain you [2 Chronicles 6:18]. According to this verse Jesus cannot be God living on the earth.

    Also the Bible calls Jesus a Prophet [Matthew 21:10-11], so how could Jesus be God and be God’s Prophet at the same time? That wouldn’t make sense.

    Additionally the Bible informs us that God does not change: I the Lord do not change. [Malachi 3:6:]. Jesus however went through many changes in his life such as age, height, weight etc.

    These are just some of the proofs within the Bible, which make it clear that the nature of Jesus and God is completely different. Some people may claim that Jesus had both a human and a divine nature. This is a claim that Jesus never made, and is in clear contradiction to the Bible which maintains that God has one nature.

    Why Jesus said: I am the way and the truth and the life



    John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eninn View Post
    Jesus is a figure who is loved and revered by billions of people the world over. Yet there is so much confusion surrounding the status of this colossal personality. Muslims and Christians both hold Jesus in high regard but view him in very different ways...
    The issue might just be because there were those, as there still are, who would be sure to go out of their way to disguise who Jesus really was, as the Son of God, for the Gnosis is the Word that was with him in the beginning...

    That Christ had a dual nature, as both God and man, where he could say his Father and he were one, meaning the same, but also that as a man he had limits on his power, and there is no Trinity that can be found, because he is God in full manifestation.

    He is the Father, and the Son, and the Holy, and the Ghost, as there is Fire, Earth, Air, and Water, as the elements he holds to himself, are part of the Law of One.

    The LORD rides upon a swift cloud (Isaiah 19:1), he shakes the capitals, he has the ability to break down every fortress that is against him, as he shall be, he will be their every undermining.

    The Bible is no perfect essay, as it has several authors, some inspired, some politically motivated, some religiously studied, some advocated, with whole other works not considered 'good' enough for programming.


    Jesus said the fulfillment of the Law and prophets is to love the LORD thy God with all of thine heart, and to love one's neighbor, to treat them as you would wish done to yourself, but if those basic tenets are violated, there always seems to be more war and fighting.

    He threw over the tables of the money changers who had caged animals to sell for blood sacrifice, of which God never asked for, while it was a requirement that Moses made up, claimed he heard it from God, while Jesus was forced to set the record straight, as scriptures received redacting.

    Genesis 1: in 6 days he finished it all, the herb and plants are for meat; Leviticus 24, if no justice is served to the Animal Kingdom, what will happen to man; Isaiah 1, 66:3, that he who kills an ox is the same as he who kills a man, and he who sacrifices a lamb, the same as he who breaks a dog's neck.

    The basic tenets any society should be able to rely upon, is was their neighbor also a horse that was whipped, or an animal called "unwanted", or were the hogs who can till the ground regarded an enemy because man got himself wrapped up inside of capitalism, that the purse can never be prevented.

    The Egyptians knew exactly when to plant based upon a single star's position, Sirius, so who dams rivers to a particular detriment, so the land languishes and God withholds what he would like to bless, just because the laws of God are broken, that nature cannot be tamed because God will never be tamed.

    Isaiah 19:24-25: In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance", so what part of that Word gets modified?
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
    https://twitter.com/WildHorseEdu

    Jesus was a Vegetarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    But Islam respects Jesus as a Prophet, correct? What is the difference between Him and Muhhamhed (sp?) in that case? Eninn?
    Mohamhed was a sick, mean demented, power obsessed , sexist, pedophile SOB who ordered his followers to kill people who did not follow him. Jesus was a "love and peace" teacher. So fundamentalist Christians, while they can be annoying tend to mean well until they are lead by a charleton.
    Fundamentalist Muslims , almost by definition, would feel a duty to kill followers of other religions.

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