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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Unsigned documents carry no weight. He can verbally order a Secretary to do something but a tweet is not anything official. Remember the ban on transgenders. It can't happen without a direct order or a signed order. I've never heard anyone say differently but maybe they are being quiet until it becomes an issue.
    He didn't say it was a legal document. Rather, he implied it was a presidential record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    I heard a good discussion on this on NPR yesterday. On the one hand the Presidents use of twitter one could argue is like a town hall meeting where 1st amendment rights should be enforced. On the other some argue that its his personal twitter account and he should be able to block anyone he wants. This could get interesting in terms of the SCOTUS and the use of social media by Pols in the context of 1st amendment issues.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...jTM/story.html
    If it's an official account, sure. If it's his OWN, PERSONAL ACCOUNT, no way in hell. It's entirely up to him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    If it's an official account, sure. If it's his OWN, PERSONAL ACCOUNT, no way in hell. It's entirely up to him...
    This is the question. There does not seem to be a bright line separating the two. I find this to be an interesting question in this age of social media. If a politician was holding a rally or a town hall they would have no right to silence their critics as long as those critics were behaving lawfully. In this case Trump has used Twitter essentially as a bully pulpit, yet when he has been challenged or criticized by his critics he has shut them down, denying their ability to respond to his statements. That seems to be the argument being put forth by the plaintiffs in the article. This is much bigger than Trump and could have far reaching ramifications for Pols in the future. It will be interesting to see how this develops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You're wrong in every way. Nice backdoor attack though.
    Is the President, or any elected member just an employee or are they an elected representative 24/7? Are they entitled to private opinions that don't reflect their official positions?
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Trump's tweets provides the Trump haters food for debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    He didn't say it was a legal document. Rather, he implied it was a presidential record.
    Then what's the problem? If it's carries no official weight then it's just talk.Liberals don't like it, iunderstand that. I don't care either.

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