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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What's sad is that you're more upset about Snowden than you are about what he exposed.

    It's a way of not facing what he exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    WRONG! What if our most secret plans regarding an enemy falls into that enemies hands resulting in American lives? Grow up.

    Well in this particular case the problem is that WE were apparently the enemy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    You best check your sources my man. You are absolutely wrong.
    My sources are the founders of this country and the constitution itself.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    You best check your sources my man. You are absolutely wrong.

    LOL. They claimed it wasn't unconstitutional as their typical "ah shucks " defense and the dim witted sheep actually believed it! So they kept doing it. I men really how could that possibly be Constitutional?

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    Alright I see the whole Snowden thing has rerailed the thread. so back at the OP : What do you think they are pulling and hiding from us right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Alright I see the whole Snowden thing has rerailed the thread. so back at the OP : What do you think they are pulling and hiding from us right now?
    Supporting AQ, for one.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Have you ever held a top secret clearance?
    Do the American people serve the U.S. government, or does the U.S. government serve the American people?
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Thanks to American hero , Ed Snowen we found out that our own government was spying on citizens withour warrant or cause. But they didn't stop and we didn't make them
    Now it looks like congressman play grab ass with 20 somethings and potentially even teens and we get to foot the bill complete with a likely gag order.
    The people often know little of where the military is or what they are doing and for who's benefit.
    Until Kristen Gillibrand put a stop to it congress could legally conduct insider trading. This may not have been "secret" but most people knew nothing about it.

    So the question of the day is what is the government and particularlly the cesspool that is congress doing behind our backs that we don't know about and how do we find out? This is not partisian. Both "major parties" are to blame . That is undeniable.
    We need tansparency yesterday! I honestly believe we'd be better served witha lottery to appoint people to congress!
    We are not going to get honest transparency in anything they provide to the public with any government site that provide us with data. The public is being played as fools since they are in full control of what is taught to students in education as well as full control of how information is published to the public in how it is worded for comprehension.

    Truth is lost in our society as lying is epidemic in our society and it is currently winning at all levels of interactions of our daily activities where it acts as if most of us are trying to survive each day by walking through a mine field. A mine field of having to carefully choose our words or actions that doesn't reveal any integrity you may have as a person.

    If we lived in a society that embrace integrity, Ed would be regarding as a hero. Whistle blowers would be honored and respected for their honesty. This behavior is regarded as the opposite which tells any person of integrity that our societies values has become evil and sick. Instead the public chooses to divide their opinions between two parties that have a history of being corrupt instead of standing on their own and demand accountability and that they provide an actual record of proving that they care about its citizens with proof that they actually care about the US success.

    What has been proven so far is they don't care about their citizens that are born here to enable them to succeed in their lifetime. They don't care about their citizens to actually obtain health care because they have made high deductibles as a deterrent to obtaining those services. They have allowed 1.5 immigrants into a country each year at the same time of allowing most of our large corporations to move to another country for cheaper labor. American Culture is eroding with the increased number of immigrants that want their culture to replace ours.

    The point of this is that our government and everyone that depends on their income has chosen to not care about its fellow citizens while pretending in the media that we are important. Anyone participating with defending these parties (including myself) is playing right into their hands. The moment when most of the public realizes this fact and decides to not participate in it anymore, I will be supportive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How and when do the people re-assert themselves as the boss?
    When we have F-35s, M-1 tanks, Killer drones and the like.

    In other words, we are too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Do the American people serve the U.S. government, or does the U.S. government serve the American people?
    Not an answer.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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