Sen. Jeff Flake saying the GOP is 'toast' if it's the party of Trump and Moore

[leekohler2]

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) was caught on a hot mic Saturday commenting that the Republican Party is "toast" if it becomes the party of President Trump and Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, both of whom are subject to multiple serious allegations of sexual misconduct.

Flake was speaking to an Arizona ally, Mesa Mayor John Giles, after a town hall meeting with constituents. "If we become the party of Roy Moore and Donald Trump, we are toast," Flake can be heard saying.


"And I am not throwing smoke at you, but you're the guy that could, just for fun — think about how much fun it would be — just to be the foil, you know, and to point out what an idiot this guy is," Giles replied. The mayor appeared to be referring back to a town hall question he asked about Flake running for president in 2020, a reference which would make Trump, rather than Moore, the "idiot" in question.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/738453...ty-trump-moore

When you're right, you're right.

But I know what will happen here- he'll just be called a RINO by our right wing members. You all are seriously that predictable.

[Crepitus]

Lol, yeah I saw that. Those open mikes can be a $#@!.

[Common]

The GOP is going to get mangled in the midterms but its not going to be trumps fault. Its going to be a dysfunctional cant agree on anything republican congress, that have $#@!bags, like flake, corker, and mcain in it.

[Standing Wolf]

The GOP is going to get mangled in the midterms but its not going to be trumps fault. Its going to be a dysfunctional cant agree on anything republican congress, that have $#@!bags, like flake, corker, and mcain in it.

The majority of Republicans in Congress refuse, for the most part, to bow to Trump's whims and wishes...which infuriates and frustrates Trump, which upsets those who've been sucked into his personality cult and believe he can do no wrong.

As for Trump's chances in 2020, that date may be portentous, in that it may well mark the year many Americans regain their eyesight and good sense and nominate someone - pretty much anyone but Trump - to represent the Republican Party in the general election. Trump's true colors and cluelessness have been on full display for some time now, and if he actually manages to remain in office for the next three years it's doubtful that he's going to get any smarter or more effectual; even most Republicans will be more than ready to replace him with an actual adult man or woman.

[Ransom]

Trump and Moore?

Trump backed Luther Strange. I remember watching his speech from Huntsville Alabama, I was chilling in Murphy NC just northeast of Chattanooga. Awesome town.

That was the speech where he told the NFL players off. And appropriately so. I remember thinking 'yeah, finally someone with the balls to say it..' Get em, Donald John.

[Ransom]

The majority of Republicans in Congress refuse, for the most part, to bow to Trump's whims and wishes...which infuriates and frustrates Trump, which upsets those who've been sucked into his personality cult and believe he can do no wrong.

The majority in Congress(Congress includes the House, Standing Wolf). The House that repealed Obamacare and just this week passed tax reform. It's the Democrats who refuse even one vote, filibuster even a justice Gorsuch, fight every department appointment tooth and nail, and flatly refuse any policy forwarded by Trump and/or Republicans. It doesn't matter if it's a Trump whim or wish....We the People did vote for Trump and did elect a Republican majority to repeal Obamacare, provide tax cuts, increase our military, extend the southern wall started by you Democrats and Obama and enforce existing immigration laws. All of these aren't the whims and wishes of our President, his Constituents voted him in based on these issues. Over regulation. Over taxing. Over spending.

As for Trump's chances in 2020, that date may be portentous, in that it may well mark the year many Americans regain their eyesight and good sense and nominate someone - pretty much anyone but Trump - to represent the Republican Party in the general election. Trump's true colors and cluelessness have been on full display for some time now, and if he actually manages to remain in office for the next three years it's doubtful that he's going to get any smarter or more effectual; even most Republicans will be more than ready to replace him with an actual adult man or woman.

They have been on display for some time. And Republicans do realize.....another Republican doesn't stand a chance in Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania. The Democrat will retain their blue wall leapt over by Trump.

TPF forum....Standing Wolf is the Bush, Romney, Establishment Republican voice here. He truly believes...that a Marco Rubio and his cool boots....or a Ted Cruz....or a Jeb Bush.....or a John Kasich....or a John McCain would have won this last election. That one of those candidates would have leapt that blue wall, that a Florida or Ohio or Iowa or a North Carolina would have voted GOP if not for Trump. He truly believes the turnout, the GOP morale, the numbers in the rural areas of our nation would have been the same without a Donald Trump. Standing Wolf can be summarized by two words recently in the state of Virginia. Ed Gillespie.

His post if you take it back 13 months says another two words.....you lose.

Swing and miss analyses you're known for here, Wolf.....but this is a colossal swing or miss.

Say the man gets re-elected in 2020, who should listen to you anymore? Three strikes and you're out, want to pontificate on 2024?

[Ransom]

The GOP is going to get mangled in the midterms but its not going to be trumps fault. Its going to be a dysfunctional cant agree on anything republican congress, that have $#@!bags, like flake, corker, and mcain in it.

The party in power normally gets crushed in the first mid-term, Bush II the only recent President to avoid that defeat. Trump might have to resort to pen and phone.

But it does remind Republicans we cannot wait. We need to pass these critical bills and make Democrats re-raise taxes....or re-implement Obamacare mandates.

Congress had an opportunity and blew it, I know many Republicans flat out seething at Congress.

[Common]

The majority of Republicans in Congress refuse, for the most part, to bow to Trump's whims and wishes...which infuriates and frustrates Trump, which upsets those who've been sucked into his personality cult and believe he can do no wrong.

As for Trump's chances in 2020, that date may be portentous, in that it may well mark the year many Americans regain their eyesight and good sense and nominate someone - pretty much anyone but Trump - to represent the Republican Party in the general election. Trump's true colors and cluelessness have been on full display for some time now, and if he actually manages to remain in office for the next three years it's doubtful that he's going to get any smarter or more effectual; even most Republicans will be more than ready to replace him with an actual adult man or woman.

which upsets those who've been sucked into his personality cult and believe he can do no wrong.

Nice try at covering up the insult

First of all flake is a phony, hes a liberal who ran as a republican because he knew he couldnt win as a democrat, now he cant win as either. Good

As far as most republicans not bowing to trump it has more to do with republicans that cant come to a consensus amongst themselves on anything. You have the Rand Paul and Cruz group thats says no to everything unless its exactly what they want, then you have the worthless McCain, Collins Makurskis that play both ends against the middle, then you have the liberal frauds Flake and Corker all of the above im sure you have lovins for.

Trump only needs one term, he installing convervative judges at a speedy clip, which will slow down the ultra left We hate white men group of professors and antifa and BLM

Im not going to go to much into this, theres no point going back and forth with a full blown one sided liberal only everything who claims everyone else is nothing but trump supporters like thats a dirty word.

Trump being elected was a godsend for america, the alternative was Hillary Clinton half of the dirtiest political duo of the last 27 yrs.

Dont sell trump down the river yet, he just may get re elected.
but until then I hope he writes another 100 exective orders to piss the left off and liberal republicans, I hope he gets to appoint at least one Scotus two would be perfect and I hope he just generally keeps making snowflake idiots yell at the sky.

[leekohler2]

which upsets those who've been sucked into his personality cult and believe he can do no wrong.

Nice try at covering up the insult

First of all flake is a phony, hes a liberal who ran as a republican because he knew he couldnt win as a democrat, now he cant win as either. Good

As far as most republicans not bowing to trump it has more to do with republicans that cant come to a consensus amongst themselves on anything. You have the Rand Paul and Cruz group thats says no to everything unless its exactly what they want, then you have the worthless McCain, Collins Makurskis that play both ends against the middle, then you have the liberal frauds Flake and Corker all of the above im sure you have lovins for.

Trump only needs one term, he installing convervative judges at a speedy clip, which will slow down the ultra left We hate white men group of professors and antifa and BLM

Im not going to go to much into this, theres no point going back and forth with a full blown one sided liberal only everything who claims everyone else is nothing but trump supporters like thats a dirty word.

Trump being elected was a godsend for america, the alternative was Hillary Clinton half of the dirtiest political duo of the last 27 yrs.

Dont sell trump down the river yet, he just may get re elected.
but until then I hope he writes another 100 exective orders to piss the left off and liberal republicans, I hope he gets to appoint at least one Scotus two would be perfect and I hope he just generally keeps making snowflake idiots yell at the sky.

Gee, did I see this coming or what? Jeff Flake is now a liberal because he disagrees with Trump.

Wow. Common, you write some wacky stuff, but this takes it.

BTW, the elections this year should have told you something.

There’s no way you can make the claim that Jeff Flake is a liberal:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Flake

[Ravens Fan]

http://theweek.com/speedreads/738453...ty-trump-moore

When you're right, you're right.

But I know what will happen here- he'll just be called a RINO by our right wing members. You all are seriously that predictable.

Jeff Flake is part of the establishment, the same establishment that Trump went to war with in his campaign, and which the voters want neutered. Should it be a surprise that he doesn't like Trump? He didn't get his way, so he is quitting and making a big show of it. I think he is right about the GOP being toast though, but it is of their own doing. The Democratic Party isn't looking so good right now either, they had to rig elections to keep their anti-establishment candidate out.