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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Again, simplistic. That's like telling a heroin addict or alcoholic that quitting is easy...just don't do it.
    Committing crimes is an addiction or like an addiction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    You are talking to a man that has been through this, several times. It really is that simple, I decided that I really did not enjoy prison, so I decided to stop breaking the law, been 12 years now.

    Before that, I made it about one year before reoffending.

    What is so complicated about deciding to obey the law?
    Deciding to obey the law is one thing. Deciding to honor both morality and obey the law is where it gets murky.

    The law cannot be what is moral. But should be reflective of what is. Otherwise the Nazis were just good law abiding citizens, and the rest of the world was just meddling in a European domestic dispute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    In our current welfare state the concept of the nuclear family in the lower income black community is close to extinct.
    The family and other traditional structures are under assault by globalists. You're not allowed to say that, though, lest you be labeled a "conspiracy theorist".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Deciding to obey the law is one thing. Deciding to honor both morality and obey the law is where it gets murky.

    The law cannot be what is moral. But should be reflective of what is. Otherwise the Nazis were just good law abiding citizens, and the rest of the world was just meddling in a European domestic dispute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    They actually do receive harsher sentences.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f3d1b6b1da68

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...04463789858002

    That's just a fact.

    My point is that this disparity in the criminal justice system only contributes to the problem and creates a cycle. Black men are put in prison and they leave a child without a father, thus putting the next generation in danger of going down the same path.

    It's even more complicated than that. Recidivism is also an issue due to an ineffective and poorly designed system. A culture of crime has developed and the cycle of poverty only helps fuel it.
    Game Play with words, I want to see their individual rap sheets. Prior Prosecutions and arrests play a major part in sentencing along with mitigating factors in the crime and in the trial. Want to play tough guy when you address the court and play the role then get ready for a harsher sentence. Do not show any remorse or a flippant so what attitude get ready for a harsher sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Washingtons words will be dismissed

    The Oscar winner says making the film did not make him more cynical about the justice system and, when asked about the prison-industrial complex, the “Malcolm X” star offered a surprising take.

    “It starts at the home,” he told reporters at the film’s downtown New York premiere. “It starts at home.”

    When prodded to expand on his answer, the 62-year-old Mount Vernon native replied: “It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure.


    “So you know I can’t blame the system,” he continued. “It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.”
    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.3653432
    Wtf? He's 62??!! Would never have guessed that. Wow. O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    They actually do receive harsher sentences.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f3d1b6b1da68

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...04463789858002

    That's just a fact.

    My point is that this disparity in the criminal justice system only contributes to the problem and creates a cycle. Black men are put in prison and they leave a child without a father, thus putting the next generation in danger of going down the same path.

    It's even more complicated than that. Recidivism is also an issue due to an ineffective and poorly designed system. A culture of crime has developed and the cycle of poverty only helps fuel it.

    Yes, those are facts. But you need to connect those facts with some logic to your conclusion the disparity is in the justice system. Could be, sure, but could be in society itself.
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    If you have a record you are going to get a harsher sentence than someone who does not have a record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If you have a record you are going to get a harsher sentence than someone who does not have a record.
    The more recent the record, the worse. Fl has the Prison Release Reoffender act. If you screw up within 3 years of being released, the sentencing is enhanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Game Play with words, I want to see their individual rap sheets. Prior Prosecutions and arrests play a major part in sentencing along with mitigating factors in the crime and in the trial. Want to play tough guy when you address the court and play the role then get ready for a harsher sentence. Do not show any remorse or a flippant so what attitude get ready for a harsher sentence.

    I read the study and quoted its own verification that this is not the case in an earlier post here.
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