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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    No. That is not a valid analogy.

    Listen to the people who have served.
    I served four years. Does my voice count now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Can you explain how someone who cannot even withstand a mild verbal berating can be trusted in a situation where rounds are flying down range?
    Perhaps because they are two entirely different things? A person can be sensitive to verbal abuse and still brave. Cowardice doesn't come from a sense of injustice, it comes from an overwhelming fear of dying.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Or a bully saying “A little bit of bullying is healthy.”

    i think there’s better ways to elicit camaraderie these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    I served four years. Does my voice count now?
    Where did you go to basic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I trust what works. And I have lived it.

    The touchy-feeling b.s. will get troops killed.

    And I have already said that over the top stuff is wrong.
    What do you consider “appropriate” hazing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Where did you go to basic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Perhaps because they are two entirely different things? A person can be sensitive to verbal abuse and still brave. Cowardice doesn't come from a sense of injustice, it comes from an overwhelming fear of dying.

    For all of its faults, the military can't tailor training to each recruit. In general the military does a good job of turning civilians into combat soldiers. And many can't adapt and get kicked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    For all of its faults, the military can't tailor training to each recruit. In general the military does a good job of turning civilians into combat soldiers. And many can't adapt and get kicked out.
    Don't they get kicked out because they are psychologically or physically incapable of meeting the standards? How does hazing make them more capable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Can you explain how someone who cannot even withstand a mild verbal berating can be trusted in a situation where rounds are flying down range?
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I trust what works. And I have lived it.

    The touchy-feeling b.s. will get troops killed.

    And I have already said that over the top stuff is wrong.
    Do you two consider this a “mild verbal berating” or “over the top”?

    allegedly threatened to toss the subordinate off a rooftop, questioned his gender, derided him with salty language and told other Marines that she was “not (expletive) done with him” and “we’ll get him, don’t worry,” or similar phrases, her charge sheet indicated.
    Assuming from the narrative that the victim is gay, haven’t the two of you condemned Muslims for throwing gays off roofs?

    Yet you support good ol American Marines doing it on our soil?
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